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Uncomfortable in the post "problems drawing boxes with dramatic foreshortening"

2022-08-07 15:06

So the two options you listed at the end there - either converging your lines more rapidly, or bringing your vanishing points closer - may seem like different choices, but they're actually the same thing.

If you make two lines converge more rapidly, the point at which they meet will come closer to the object you're drawing. If you bring your vanishing points closer to the object you're drawing, its lines will converge more rapidly.

So, both are the correct answer.

Uncomfortable in the post "I plan to star the lesson on how to draw a box, but have not done it wet. I think I need some critique about what i have done so far, however"

2022-08-06 20:49

Unfortunately we do require posts on this subreddit to either be questions or homework submissions directly related to the assignments in the drawabox course. I would recommend posting this over on /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw instead.

This is in the interest of giving students as much of a chance as we can manage to give them of getting eyes on their work. For the same reason, homework submissions here need to be complete (meaning must include all of the work assigned for a given lesson or challenge), rather than partial work or single exercises.

Uncomfortable in the post "I can't find a conclusion article on the site"

2022-08-06 17:30

Ultimately what one does after finishing the course is entirely dependent on what it is the individual is interested in doing. While the core fundamentals we cover in Drawabox mark the base upon which the rest of one's skillset will be built (regardless of what that skillset is, as long as it pertains to representational drawing), what people go on to do can be quite varied. Some people want to create still illustrations, others are more interested in designing characters, environments, props, or vehicles. Yet more are interested in sequential art (comics, graphic novels), and others will be more interested in animation. So there would not be any sort of one-size-fits-all "next steps" after completing this course.

That said, I do touch on the fact that students should be engaging in producing the kinds of things that interest them from the very beginning, despite not having the skills to do any of it well. This is a big focus in Lesson 0, especially in the first three videos (What is Drawabox, What are the Fundamentals and Changing your Mindset and the 50% Rule). It's this exposure to the things you'd like to do as your end goal that dictates what you will need to learn to get there.

Uncomfortable in the post "Lesson 1 : Lines and Eclipse"

2022-08-05 23:27

This subreddit doesn't allow single exercises or partial work, as explained here, and as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. For the subreddit, we're pushing students to post complete lesson work.

Uncomfortable in the post "one point perspective question"

2022-08-04 22:20

Yup, that's fine. Using one vanishing point for the entire scene is actually already an approximation, and as the objects in the scene drift away from the vanishing point, we end up stretching the nature of that approximation more and more - eventually getting to a point where it no longer really looks right. So it's already a concern, regardless of whether we center our horizon or vanishing point.

More importantly however, it's actually not a great idea on the compositional side of things to center your horizon - it tends to lead to rather boring, sterile compositions with an equal proportion of the scene above and below the horizon. Instead, pushing it further up or further down can help to make a scene more dynamic. So, it's done quite frequently, and isn't something you need to worry about.

Uncomfortable in the post "250 box challenge is so frustrating"

2022-08-04 16:35

While you should complete the 250 box challenge prior to moving onto Lesson 2, you aren't expected to do spend all your time drawing on boxes. You should still be holding to the 50% rule, and giving yourself ample time to draw just for the hell of it.

Uncomfortable in the post "Question about my first lesson"

2022-08-04 16:34

So this is addressed in this video from Lesson 0 (be sure to go through Lesson 0 if you haven't already), but to answer your questions:

Uncomfortable in the post "On ink consumption during 250 Box Challenge PART I"

2022-08-04 16:30

<__< amusing as this is, we do have to be pretty strict in keeping the subreddit limited to homework submissions and lesson-related questions, simply because it's pretty tough for students to get eyes on their work already. So unfortunately your squid puzzle will have to remain a mystery! Sorry about that.

Uncomfortable in the post "What kind of ruler is used here?"

2022-08-02 21:20

So while it's a ruler I purchased at a local art supply store either where I live now, or back when I was living in LA, googling "transparent red grid ruler" did turn up some promising results, like this amazon listing. It's on canadian amazon, but it should give you the brand name, and a sense of what to look for.

Uncomfortable in the post "Good enough?"

2022-08-02 00:21

It's a single exercise. By partial work, I mean multiple exercises but not the whole lesson (meaning all the exercises for the lines, ellipses, and boxes sections).

If you don't get an answer on the discord from your first posting, you are of course welcome to post it again after a bit.

Uncomfortable in the post "Good enough?"

2022-08-02 00:11

This subreddit doesn't allow single exercises or partial work, as explained here, and as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. For the subreddit, we're pushing students to post complete lesson work.

But yes, your work for the exercise is fine.

Uncomfortable in the post "Genie in a bottle "

2022-08-01 23:00

This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here, and as noted in the submission rules. Please be sure to check the rules of each community before sharing your content there, to ensure that it is in line with the focus of that subreddit.

Uncomfortable in the post "I made a new film, how is it?"

2022-08-01 21:29

This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here, and as noted in the submission rules. Please be sure to check the rules of each community before sharing your content there, to ensure that it is in line with the focus of that subreddit.

Uncomfortable in the post "does it matter wether i use a dynamic quadrupod grip or a dynamic tripod grip?"

2022-08-01 17:47

That depends. If your question is in relation to the lessons on drawabox.com, which this subreddit focuses on (as explained here), then no. Tripod or quadrupod or whatever other variation - as long as it is the same grip you'd use to write with, allowing as much control of how much pressure you apply to the tip as you can manage. Just be sure not to choke up too tightly on the pen - hold it in a relaxed grip, and not too close to the tip.

If however you're asking in a more general sense, then it depends on what you're doing - but that would be a question for /r/learnart or /r/artistlounge, which are better suited to more general questions.

Uncomfortable in the post "I want to learn how to improve in still life drawing"

2022-08-01 17:40

As this question is more general, try asking it over on /r/learnart or /r/artistlounge. This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here.

Uncomfortable in the post "Is there any video or guide that I could use to teach myself how to draw human figures? like nothing too advanced just something manga level. thanks"

2022-08-01 17:40

As this question is more general, try asking it over on /r/learnart or /r/artistlounge. This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here. The drawabox lessons focus on the core fundamentals of drawing, and do not push into more complex topics such as figure drawing.

Uncomfortable in the post "Am I Practicing Drawing the Correct Way?"

2022-08-01 17:39

As this question is more general, try asking it over on /r/learnart or /r/artistlounge. This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here.

Uncomfortable in the post "Learning How To Draw Light and Shadow From Online Sources?"

2022-08-01 17:39

As this question is more general, try asking it over on /r/learnart or /r/artistlounge. This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here.

Uncomfortable in the post "First attempt at Lesson 1, Organic Perspective (DIGITAL)"

2022-07-31 19:30

This subreddit doesn't allow single exercises or partial work, as explained here, and as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. For the subreddit, we're pushing students to post complete lesson work.

Uncomfortable in the post "Advice for finding style?"

2022-07-31 00:17

I would recommend asking this over on /r/learnart or /r/artistlounge. This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here.

That said, in one of our course's early videos, where we discuss what the fundamentals are, the latter half is spent discussing exactly what style is and how it can be explored and developed, so that might be of interest to you. You'll find that video here.

Uncomfortable in the post "I DID IT"

2022-07-30 13:53

This subreddit doesn't allow single exercises or partial work, as explained here, and as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. For the subreddit, we're pushing students to post complete lesson work.

Uncomfortable in the post "Plants & Texture"

2022-07-29 21:53

This subreddit doesn't allow single exercises or partial work, as explained here, and as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. For the subreddit, we're pushing students to post complete lesson work.

Uncomfortable in the post "Day 5 of drawing."

2022-07-29 20:00

It seems to me that you may have missed this comment I left on your "Day 1" post on this subreddit, informing you that this is not the place for these kinds of posts.

If you post content that does not adhere to our submission rules, I will assume that you need a bit more help in adhering to them. Unfortunately the only way I can help in that regard is to ban you so you can no longer post here.

Uncomfortable in the post "Digital art friends - do you hold ur stylus straight up or at a slight angle?"

2022-07-28 17:16

Try asking this over on /r/learnart or /r/artistlounge. This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here.

That said, I myself tend to hold my stylus at more of an angle. As for my grip, I try not to clench too tightly or choke the pen too high - my index/middle finger usually sit around where the side buttons are on the stylus.

Uncomfortable in the post "I am trying to visually explain how nutrients turn into energy inside the human body. What tools do I need to make a graphics video? (please see the attached video reference for the desired result)"

2022-07-26 13:55

This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here.

Normally I'd try to recommend a more suitable community for a given question but in this case I'm genuinely unsure of where you might be able to get answers for what you're asking. Maybe /r/artistlounge would be able to point you in the right direction, but I'm unsure.

Uncomfortable in the post "Day 1 I started drawing today."

2022-07-26 13:51

This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here. You may want to try posting this on a more general subreddit such as /r/learnart or /r/artistlounge.

Uncomfortable in the post "(Please help) Constructing a perfect 2 point perspective cube without vanishing points or station point"

2022-07-25 23:37

So this subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, so technically you'd be better off asking this in a more general community like /r/learnart or /r/artistlounge, but you're in luck. What you're dealing with here is exactly what we're about.

Drawabox is not a perspective course, but rather it is a spatial reasoning course that tries as much as possible to not deal directly with the far-away things, like vanishing points. Instead, we try to work as much as we can with what we have nearby, although this inevitably reduces the accuracy of the approach - in other words, there's a lot of room for little mistakes to throw off our lines. But, at least for our purposes, that's fine, as perfect perspective is not required in concept art or illustration. Of course, the importance of perfection may be different in your case.

I do want to mention is that the technique is one I'd consider to be, at least within the context of our course, advanced. We introduce it at the very end of the course (at Lesson 7), and so it's not something we take lightly, or that you should go in with any expectation of simplicity.

You'll find an explanation of the approach in this video, although it does build upon understanding the nature of ellipses (which we explain further back in Lesson 1. Also, the approach itself is pulled from Scott Robertson's "How to Draw", although a lot of people find the explanation there to be especially difficult to grasp - though given the complicated nature of the approach, and the fact that we introduce it at the end of our course, I'm not sure ours is gonna be that much easier to grasp.

All the same, I hope it helps.

Uncomfortable in the post "Is it allowed to use these gloves for the lessons? My hand keeps getting stuck on the paper when I dont use them."

2022-07-25 17:47

Locking this now because it's mostly just jokes.

Uncomfortable in the post "Is it allowed to use these gloves for the lessons? My hand keeps getting stuck on the paper when I dont use them."

2022-07-24 19:32

Yes, nothing wrong with using a glove to reduce the friction/stickiness if that's an issue for you.

Uncomfortable in the post "Which are some good human anatomy books?"

2022-07-23 19:16

Try asking this over on /r/learnart, /r/learntodraw, or /r/artistlounge. This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here. Drawabox focuses on the core fundamentals of drawing and does not push into more advanced topics such as figure drawing or anatomy.

Uncomfortable in the post "AHAHA FINALLY AFTER A YEAR OF PROCRASTINATION! Lesson 1, pass or fail?"

2022-07-22 19:18

Lol. Thanks.

Uncomfortable in the post "AHAHA FINALLY AFTER A YEAR OF PROCRASTINATION! Lesson 1, pass or fail?"

2022-07-22 19:15

This appears to be a repost of something you posted 13 minutes ago. Posts to this subreddit automatically go to the spam filter and get approved manually (I approved yours just a few minutes after you posted it), so perhaps you got confused. Either way, no need to post it again.

Uncomfortable in the post "Official Critique Question"

2022-07-21 19:10

The 14 day cooldown applies to the submission of your next separate lesson or challenge. Revisions are included as part of the current critique, and so revisions are free (or rather, covered as part of the original credit cost - though within reason, as all things have their limits) and are not subject to any kind of cooldown. That said, we just ask that students take their time in absorbing the feedback, revisiting the material and in doing the assigned revisions so as to give themselves the best chance of executing that work correctly and reduce the chances of further revisions being assigned.

Uncomfortable in the post "Draw a Box 50 50 rule."

2022-07-19 18:54

What you described - using a piece of reference to solve a specific problem or address a certain uncertainty, rather than copying the entirety of that reference - is entirely okay. It is essentially the same thing I was doing in my example of the woman riding a tiger through a market, where I used different pieces of reference for different elements, not copying them directly but rather helping them inform my choices.

So, to be clear, your use of reference in that manner is fine for the 50% rule.

Uncomfortable in the post "Perspective Rules Question, what happens when you move an object in 2 or 3 point?"

2022-07-19 18:52

Try posting this over on /r/learnart, /r/learntodraw, or /r/artistlounge. This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here. While Drawabox does go into perspective, it's pretty clear from your question that what you're asking is more general, and so you'll have a better bet asking in one of those more general communities.

Uncomfortable in the post "HELP NEEDED!!!!!"

2022-07-19 18:51

This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here. Try posting this on /r/ArtistLounge, although be sure to look through their rules first to make sure it is permitted there.

Uncomfortable in the post "drawing help??"

2022-07-19 18:50

The use of reference is not a bad thing - but it's very, very common for students to focus only on reproducing images exactly as they are, on reproducing the 2D image in front of them, on a 2D page or canvas, without ever actually understanding the way in which the thing they're drawing exists in three dimensions. This results in that sense that one is stuck only ever drawing from references, because they're used to allowing those references to dictate the entirety of what they draw, rather than using the references as a tool to help you in make your own decisions.

Like I said - this is common, and there are many people in your situation.

Now, this subreddit is actually reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here, so I'd recommend that you ask this question over on /r/learnart or /r/artistlounge to get a more varied set of points of view. That said, Drawabox is a course that is geared towards specifically tackling the issue you've called out. To help students understand how the things they're drawing exist in 3D space, and to help them develop their spatial reasoning skills, so that they are not stuck reproducing a reference image exactly as it is, but rather are more capable of making adjustments and changes based on what they need, to create their own pieces rather than simply copying the compositions of others.

The course is free, but it's quite demanding, and isn't the sort of thing that can be completed in a day, or a week, or a month, though I do recommend that you give Lesson 0 a look. It explains everything the course explores, everything it doesn't, and generally how it is designed to be tackled. That should help you decide whether or not this course will address your concerns.

Uncomfortable in the post "is anyone interested in forming like a small discord group where we can kinda critique each other?"

2022-07-18 16:06

This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here, which does already have its own large discord server.

Try posting this on /r/artistlounge instead, though I would be sure to look at their submission rules to make sure it's allowed.

Uncomfortable in the post "Lesson 2: Dissections assignment. Wanted to ask for some feedback before I fill another page with dissections. Thank you in advance!"

2022-07-18 16:05

This subreddit doesn't allow single exercises or partial work, as explained here, and as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. For the subreddit, we're pushing students to post complete lesson work.

For what it's worth, your work is coming along fine.

Uncomfortable in the post "Cannot locate this anywhere any info would be greatly appreciated"

2022-07-17 18:54

It appears that you have not included what info you're looking for. All I can see is the title ("Cannot locate this anywhere any info would be greatly appreciated").

That said, this subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here, so unless your question is related to the course then this probably isn't the place to ask.

Uncomfortable in the post "First ever try on eyes."

2022-07-15 17:40

Try posting this on /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw. This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here.

Uncomfortable in the post "Digital Piece for Crit"

2022-07-15 17:40

Try posting this on /r/learnart or /r/digitalpainting. This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here.

Uncomfortable in the post "Does anyone recognise the brand of this drawing board?"

2022-07-13 23:04

Try asking over on /r/learnart or /r/artistlounge. This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here.

Uncomfortable in the post "Starting the 250 box challenge, off to a good start?"

2022-07-12 17:52

This subreddit doesn't allow single exercises or partial work, as explained here, and as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. For the subreddit, we're pushing students to post complete lesson work.

That said, so far so good.

Uncomfortable in the post "1 point perspective practice"

2022-07-12 15:29

Try posting this to /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw. This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here, primarily to improve students' chances of getting feedback/eyes on their assigned homework.

Uncomfortable in the post "I'm starting my day today to practice drawing, may i succeed (i hope so). Please give me tips on where to start?"

2022-07-12 15:28

Try asking this over on /r/learnart or /r/artistlounge. This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here. You may want to check those out, given that they're free and focus on the core fundamentals of drawing (so lots of people do recommend them as a good place to start), but you're going to want to ask your question in a more general community so you can get lots of suggestions and pick what suits you best.

Uncomfortable in the post "How would one do the loomis head for this portrait? Just started mine but its not looking like the reference."

2022-07-12 15:26

Try asking this over on /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw. This subreddit is reserved for those working through the lessons on drawabox.com, as explained here. Drawabox focuses on the core fundamentals of drawing and does not get into more advanced topics such as figure drawing or portraiture.

Uncomfortable in the post "Unintentionally executing marks from elbow"

2022-07-10 23:46

I should point out that /u/gooseberry123's advice is more general - not specific to the Drawabox course that we're going through here. Drawabox pushes students to draw from their shoulder (it's expected you'll slip up here and there, but catching yourself and correcting the behaviour each time is part of the process) to help build comfort with drawing with your whole arm.

In general, drawing with whatever pivot you like is a-okay - but as explained here, the course has its own specific intent that goes hand in hand with the curriculum as a whole.

As this subreddit is of course part of the larger reddit community, it is not entirely uncommon for folks to pop in and provide answers without necessarily knowing about the course itself. They absolutely mean well, but the advice can be in a more general context.

Uncomfortable in the post "Am I getting the idea?"

2022-07-10 23:43

This subreddit doesn't allow single exercises or partial work, as explained here, and as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. For the subreddit, we're pushing students to post complete lesson work.

Uncomfortable in the post "Not interested to became an artist"

2022-07-08 23:46

Thank you for the kind words! And I'm glad you've seen significant improvements in your work.