Thank you and Ill make sure to keep practicing leaves and branches. I'll move on to the next lessons if another user agrees that I am able to go on to the next lesson.
Hello Ive revised the leaf and branches exercise but I wasnt sure if you wanted me to revise the plant with the flowers on the sphere(please let me know if I do need to revise that one). In the leaf exercise I tried to showcase the top and bottom of the leaf. It particularly difficult because at some point the leaf started to twist instead of just oscillating. At the bottom left of my revision i tried to show the bottom of the leaf with a shadow in order to clearly show that its the bottom of the leaf but I'm not sure if it worked out so well. The braches exercise still had chicken scratches I think. It was difficult to keep the ellipses the same shape AND have the lines connecting them to be linear and smooth.
If you believe that I have to revise this section again please do not hesitate to do so. I am not particularly content with this revision and I am prepared to keep working on completing lesson 3 till perfection.
Thank you for the critique!
Well done! Most of your exercises were pretty confident I would say. With a few cases where some ellipses sometimes looks wobbly. With the perspective you are pretty much on the mark as well with the farthest left row and top right box in the rotated boxes exercises having some inconsistencies in their perspective but I think you've done a good job as a whole.
I don't really see an issue in your work other than the issue of confident and such but as long as you keep being confident in your lines in mind, I'm sure you'll be fine.
I've went ahead and marked this lesson as complete for you. Remember to use these exercises as warmups from now on in order to further refine your skills.
Next Steps:
Next step is the 250 box challenge. As mentioned above you did have a few inconsistencies in your boxes and this challenge will help straighten those problems out for you. Do your best!
I tried to exaggerate the degree change in both contour curves and ellipses I hope it doesn't look like it breaks the perspective.
I think youre work was well done. A lot of the exercise prior to the boxes were very clean and confident. I especially want to praise your ellipses. Its common for people to not keep the degree in the table of ellipses exercise but you've showed that you have a good control on the degree of the ellipses. Good job.
Now onto your boxes. Some of the box's perspective were inconsistent. Remember in 3 point perspective when you tilt a box up there's a converging point at the top and there's no converging point below the box. If you tilted the box down there's a converging point at the bottom and there's no converging point above it.
This might help you with creating boxes in 3 point perspective.https://imgur.com/a/fZXN9r5
In the rotated boxes exercise your 3 point perspective boxes(boxes on the top-left, top-right, bottom-right, and bottom-left) had similar perspective. Lets take your boxes on the top left for example, the box on the very left needs to have its converging point on the right be closer than the box beside it since its being rotated to the left (if that makes sense). Please go over how rotating a box can change it's converging points again before proceeding to the 250 box challenge.
Other than that I think you're well on your way to the 250 boxes challenge. That's where you'll start really understanding how a box behaves in 3 point perspective and should be able help you tidy up your boxes a bit more. Again, please go over how converging points change when you rotate a box before you go to the 250 box challenge. Keep at it, and always do your best!
First off I really want to appreciate the work you put in. There's a lot of work that I've seen that have lots of space left in the paper, but in your case the page has been filled up to the brim. Well done! Remember to pace yourself though because it does get a lot harder from here so be careful not to burn yourself out.
I would really work on making more confident ellipses as a lot of them are very shaky. You need to remember to ghost before making ellipses if you haven't done so already. In your table of ellipses some of panels had varying degrees when they really should've had the same degree. Your funnels exercise had me on the ropes though because it looked like it was of varying degree but it was really subtle so I couldnt tell. I think it should be good enough to move on though.
As with the boxes, there are a few of them that isn't quite consistent but it's very common that people wont get the 3 point perspective right away. My advice for these boxes goes like this. If you take a box like the top right or the top left in the rotated boxes exercise, the converging points would be at the left,right and up. There would be no converging point down. If you take a box like the bottom right or the bottom left in the rotated boxes exercise, the converging points would be at the left,right and down. There would be no converging point up. Keeping this in mind this should fix the inconsistency in your boxes. To reiterate, If you tilt your box down in 3 point perspective theres a converging point down and vice versa.
Below are some tips on making 3pp boxes.
Other than that I think you've done well. I would keep practicing on the ellipses by incorporating all the exercising learned in lesson 1 and use it as warmups from now on. Now to tidy up your boxes you have the 250 box challenge to help you with that as it is your next step after lesson 1. This lesson is pretty much done.
Next Steps:
As mentioned above your next step is the 250 box challenge. Do your best!
Thank you for your critique! Im especially grateful for your links. I try my best to keep a box with a normal perspective but most of the time with these kinds of normal perspective the converging lines don't explicitly converge. I have troubles with the subtlety of the converging lines. They just look like straight lines so to compensate for it I guess I try to make the converging lines more obvious to me. I realize now that it's just me staying in my comfort zone which defeats the purpose of these exercise. I'll start being more proactive about it during my warmups from now on though, thank you for pointing it out.
On the other hand, I've actually moved on from the 250 box challenge without a critique quite a while ago using discord and during that time I've actually finished lesson 2 as well. If it's not too much to ask could you please critique that one as well?
Your work was really well done! They were all very clean and very easy to look at. I particularly liked your rotated boxes. The rotated boxes weren't crowded and it was damn near perfect.
I would just work on making more confident lines, especially on your ellipses. Some of them were pretty rough.
Also you mentioned that rotated boxes confused you? My tip would be to remember that converging points shifts as you rotate a box. If you were to rotate your box to the left, the converging point on the left would be closer to the box and the converging point on the right would move farther from the box. If you were to rotate the box to a point where 3 point perspective would be needed, ie) top-left, top-right, bottom-left and bottom-right boxes on the rotated boxes exercises, the same principles would apply. If you were to rotate your box similar to the top-left box in the rotated box exercise, the converging point to the left would be closer, and the converging point on the top would also be closer. While the converging point on the right would be farther. In this position there's no converging point on the bottom.
Next Steps:
I would keep using the exercises you've learned in lesson 1 as warmups from now on to make sure you make those confident lines. The next step is now 250 box challenge.
Do your best!
Yes your ellipses are definitely a lot better and cleaner. The amount that degree increases is arbitrary so you don't have to worry. You only need to show that the ellipses degrees are increasing here but for future reference you should try to control how much the degree changes from now on.
Again, well done.
Next Steps:
Remember to keep your submissions clean!
Onto the 250 boxes challenge.
Some of these were indeed rough. Especially the beginning exercises where it seemes a bit rushed. Although lesson 1 encourages making confident lines, it doesn't imply that you should be making these lines as fast as possible. The goal in lesson 1 is cleanliness. The ellipses also need to be drawn over twice not once. I would advice you to not take the super-imposed lines and table of ellipses lightly.
On the other hand, your boxes are good. The lot of the boxes perspective are inconsistent but overall it only needs a couple of tweaks in order to be amazing boxes.
Good work.
Next Steps:
Please revise super-imposed lines, table of ellipse, and funnel exercise. Your submission in the funnels exercise has most of the ellipses in the same degree. The funnels should have its center ellipse to have the smallest degree and the ellipses at the end of the funnels to have the largest degree.
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