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10:19 PM, Friday July 17th 2020

Hi! Grats on completing the box challenge! Like you said, you've done a pretty good job at improving over the set. By the end your convergences end up being pretty good, as well as your lines.

I have a few things to mention:

First is your hatching lines, they are a bit rushed. Don't forget to start with them at the corner of the box so they don't fray on both ends, take your time with them as they're super useful practice.

Second is the line extension, you've done it to all boxes, which is great, but you should have extended them as much as you could, even if it collided with other boxes. The line extension method will tell you where are your issues, but for that you need to extend your lines as much as you can.

And in general, most of your boxes are extreme perspective boxes, shallow perspective boxes are specially important, so practice them on your next warmups.

Lastly, the main issue I can catch in your boxes by the end, is that even though your convergeces have gotten pretty good, you still have trouble with the inner corner at times. This order of drawing boxes helped me a lot on getting it better, so give it a try.

This diagram is helpful on that issue as well; starting to think about the relationship between all lines instead of thinking on them as pairs will lead to better results too.

Overall pretty good job!

Next Steps:

Congratulations on finishing lesson the box challenge! Your next step is lesson 2

As I marked this as complete, you are now qualified to critique lesson 1 and box challenge submissions.

-Doing critiques is a way of learning and solidifying concepts. I can atest to that after having done hundreds of critiques. There are a lot of concepts that I did not understand, and thanks to critiquing I started understanding them. Which made me learn a lot more through the course.

-Another thing is that as the number of current submissions is super high, if you critique some critiques, those would be less critiques I'd have to critique before reaching your next submissions, so you'd get your critiques faster. Uncomfortable also implemented a system that makes your submissions appear higher in the queue if you do critiques, so that would improve your chances even more.

It's totally optional of course, I won't force anyone to give critiques. But me and the other people who are critiquing would be super grateful if you gave it a shot.

Good luck on lesson 2, and keep up the good work!

NOTE: here's a quick guide on critiquing lesson 1 submissions.

and here's another on critiquing box challenge submissions.

There are a few people that feel hesitant to critique because they feel they aren't ready to it so hopefully it'll help you in case you are one of those people.

This community member feels the lesson should be marked as complete, and 2 others agree. The student has earned their completion badge for this lesson and should feel confident in moving onto the next lesson.
2:33 AM, Saturday July 18th 2020

Thank you for your critique! Im especially grateful for your links. I try my best to keep a box with a normal perspective but most of the time with these kinds of normal perspective the converging lines don't explicitly converge. I have troubles with the subtlety of the converging lines. They just look like straight lines so to compensate for it I guess I try to make the converging lines more obvious to me. I realize now that it's just me staying in my comfort zone which defeats the purpose of these exercise. I'll start being more proactive about it during my warmups from now on though, thank you for pointing it out.

On the other hand, I've actually moved on from the 250 box challenge without a critique quite a while ago using discord and during that time I've actually finished lesson 2 as well. If it's not too much to ask could you please critique that one as well?

3:43 AM, Saturday July 18th 2020

The thing about the lines being less obvious is something that the 2 images I posted help to tackle. Instead of trying to visualize the vanishing point (you can't because it's too far away), you start trying to think about the relationship of all lines, thinking about their angles, and doing your best to approximate the convergences between lines.

About the critique, yeah, I'll go through it. Like I said in my message too, the people who do critiques appear higher in the queue, which makes them more likely to get critiques, and I do try too to focus on people who do critiques (which is why I did your critique right now, even though there are some older submissions in the queue).

Good luck in the lessons! I'll try to go through it like I said soon, so wait before attempting lesson 3 homework.

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