KingPrawn

Taking an overall look at your submission, I'd say you did a good job. Your stand alone cylinders and cylinders in boxes for the most part follows the method for drawing cylinders very well.

The only thing of note I feel I should mention are the numbers 133, 135, and 134 on this page https://i.imgur.com/3ZyEPog.jpeg

As a cylinder goes further away, the ends will get closer, and in these examples you drew the shaded part in the opposite way.

Taking #133 as an example, without changing the lines at all, by implying the other end is facing us, the problem is fixed, although I am just showing this as an example. If we intend to draw this cylinder in a position where the right face is the face we can see, the lines should converge, even if ever so slightly to show that. I noticed this here and there in your submission, but as you went on your cylinders had this problem less and less but I figured I should mention it. With #133 that divergence is extremely tiny, but that tiny divergence still makes it incorrect. When a cylinder is in a shallow perspective like #133, just take extra care to make sure the lines do not diverge. Convergence, even just a little bit is correct.

incorrect - https://i.imgur.com/cAqOqBi.png

Correct - https://i.imgur.com/e8GcWtC.png

another good example is this page here, where #89 is correct, while #91 is incorrect in the same way as #133, except here it is much more obvious. The way #91 is drawn here, implies that the cylinder widens the further back it goes, like a cone.

https://i.imgur.com/lNx1oeA.jpeg

Other than that small nitpick, I'd say you adhered to the principles rather well. You made sure to make the farther end a little bit of a wider angle, and as you progressed, your cylinders became better and better, aside from that small nitpick. Just keep that convergence over divergence tidbit in mind going forward.

My redo - https://imgur.com/a/est9lvh

I timed out how long I spent on the back of my drawings in an effort to slow down, and spend some more time on each drawing.

I added some notes on the imgur upload under each image.

for #3,4,5 and 6 I ended up drawing one of my vanishing points on the notepad behind my paper, the points that led to a rapid convergence. I don't know if I should have, since building up my intuition for perspective is part of the assignments, but I can just make a new submission without doing that if needed.

I did not do any side/front studies for these like I did with my original submissions.

I had some questions I was going to ask, but It is late, I'm tired, so I'll just end here.

Edit - Looking at my submission I may have drawn both my vanishing points rather than 1 (behind my paper) for #3 and 5 as well, I can't remember for sure

Should I attempt to focus more on the pure forms, or should I attempt to add in more details as well? Also should I continue to those those side and front studies for every drawing? Or should I save that for the more complex forms that involve a lot of curves?

My apologies, I felt that by posting a question on a Assignment you have labeled as "finished" I was unfairly asking more from you than I should have since each assignment costs x credits to submit and have reviewed, and I deleted it a few minutes after I posted it. Thank you for the response, I have moved forward and am trying my best to proceed with the assignments for lesson 7 right now.

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1 - It gets easier over time

2 - If you see mistakes and you know what's wrong, just take those mistakes into account. If' you dont know the problem, try to get a critique

3 - While it can be exceptionally difficult at first(for some), especially if you are result oriented, try to abide to the 50/50 rule as best you can.

To quickly answer your first main question, I feel that it gets easier over time to focus less on results and more on learning the many small and important facets of drawing/developing intuition. I made it a goal to actually start drawing in octoberish of 2019, as a College grad with 0 experience in drawing apart from a stick figure here and there. Even today, I will still look at the types of works I would like to achieve, and still fall into the trap of getting frustrated when I underperform (by a massive margin might I add) to what I want. The only real difference between then and now is my ability to more easily brush it off and keep trying. As Uncomfortable mentions, drawing is a step by step process, you want to handle problems one at a time, and being able to improve your abilities to do so in such a manner is invaluable. Once you have gotten far enough into the course, you will get to a point where you can look at what you are capable of now compared to before, and that was a MASSIVE motivation boost for me, even if my drawabox exercises looked like crap.

As a reply to this question, it depends. If you can see you are making a certain error over and over again, and you know WHY it is wrong, such as constantly getting the one vertical line on the opposing side of a box incorrect, you can start working on that and you will improve with that over time. If you know that you are doing something incorrect but can't quite figure it out, even after thoroughly thinking about it yourself and trying to find it, critiques are invaluable. I am currently experiencing this myself, with colors and lighting. I KNOW something is wrong with how i apply color and shading and I can't pinpoint it so I am currently trying to gather some critiques and information from wherever I can.

And be sure to do your best to follow the 50/50 rule, as it can allow you to focus your result oriented attitude on something else rather than your exercises. It cannot be emphasized enough that the drawabox exercises are just that, exercises that allow your mistakes and problems to be laid bare so you can see them and consciously work on improvement. If you are stuck in a result-oriented mentality, the 50/50 rule really can feel like anathema, you start drawing something and in your mind you already know what you want, you start drawing and the more and more it does not look like the final product you envisage ,the more frustrated you can get and you just stop. I fell victim to this up until I reached the final stretch of lesson 5 about 2 months ago. With what I have learned about perspective through drawabox, i have started drawing things like cityscapes or buildings, stuff that I can make, and look something similar to what I would like to achieve for the 50/50 rule. My main goal to draw things like characters, and be able to illustrate scenes in color, but by putting my focus in one aspect of drawing at a time, I can see and feel my skills improving. I am nearing the end of the drawabox course soon, so I am branching out and trying to learn things like color and shading, but I am still putting the vast majority of my focus into learning perspective and being able to manipulate shapes and forms in 3d on paper.

Sorry for the wall of text, about 11 months ago I was in your shoes, and I only changed about 2-3 months ago so I know how you feel and it SUCKS.

The assignment - http://imgur.com/a/7h8yLZe

I didn't make a gallery of my references this time.

I don't have any questions or nothing to add for now, other than I spread the work out over a longer time than I usually would.

Just a quick question, for the sausage chains, should I make them uniform? Should I use a reference image?

Because my current understanding is to make random sausage chains consisting of 3 sausages each, and add additional forms (use leg references here), not to make them look like a leg per se(in terms of sausage chain layout), but just for the practice of it.

With the exception of the first two, as you stated. Is this correct?

Before starting off, I just want to state that I do my best to follow your instructions, and I do read your responses thoroughly and multiple times over(over several days), just in case if it seems as if I don't. I say this because you explicitly said that I should do 1 drawing a day, and I am now submitting a day earlier than I should be.

The reason for this is because I have nothing to do all damn day for this entire month basically, and I'd rather spend my time actually working on improving my drawing skills rather than play video games or something. This is also why I have included a second gallery, of drawings I used as a chance to further analyze and study the animals I planned on drawing as submissions. Just figured I should state this before moving on.

Final submissions - https://imgur.com/a/Xw6kGYT

references - https://imgur.com/a/CUFev8R

hw 5 misc - https://imgur.com/a/S4cDbfs

Some things I had problems with.

• You mentioned in your last critique to avoid drawing flat shapes, as we must focus on three dimensional forms. I have done my best to adhere to this but when it comes to things like feathers, especially the back feathers behind the legs on this owl, for example, I am confused as to how to approach this.

• When it comes to doing these exercises, should I focus on picking the more challenging subject matter, or the more manageable ones for me? I ask this because I find myself going between the two frequently. I ended up choosing to do an owl because I knew It would be difficult, but should I keep approaching the topic of subject matter like this for drawabox exercises?

• lastly, also relating to the owl, how should I determine whether or not to use the sausage method? I ask this because I had some difficulty in drawing the owl's wings while they are tucked in. I know that there is an underlying structure with the wings and most of what we see is feathers. I decided to approach it using sausages, and adding forms to fill in the gaps but I feel that this was a poor choice as not only is it difficult to read, but the forms used to fill in the gaps between wing segments ended up feeling more like flat shapes rather than forms.

I have a few more questions that I cannot remember, but even if I did, I don't want to keep you here all day.