Spookyprayers

Ok then I am gonna do that, thank you :)!

Thank you again for your reply ^^, sorry that I only replied this late o.o.

Mh ok so then I guess I am going to wait for a critique, till I continue with lesson 4. I get what you say about being patient, the problem for me would rather be that I am waiting really long for critiques, so I fear that I unlearn everything I learned in the time till I can do the next lesson. I enjoy doing the construction drawings, so I would say that I just do some more plant constructions till I get a critique for lesson 3, but Uncomfortable also said we should not grind the exercises o.o. So I am a bit confused about what I should do with the meantime :/.

Thank you for the review :).

Ok then I am trying to put the pictures in the right order next time. But in case you see my submission for lesson 3: I already finished lesson 3 and uploaded it, so I can only use your advice for the rest of lesson 4 I am currently doing (and everything after that of course).

Yea I am having a bit of a difficulty with line weight, I am trying to do my line weight in a single stroke, but often I am a bit unsure and afraid to draw them confident, even though I ghosted them before. As for the form intersections, I honestly tried to use the line weight for this aspect of communication but was unsure about if I should also use it on the lines which show the intersection. So I experimented with this all over the two pages, trying to figure it out. So you are saying I should use it only to communicate what is in front and not apply it to the intersection lines?

Do you think they appear flat because I used to many? Uncomfortable mentioned in lesson 3 that too many contour lines can result in making something look flat, so this may be the reason if I look back :/.

Thank you also for everything else you wrote, I am trying to apply this now (but again, if you happen to see my homework for lesson 3 and 4, I am already working on lesson 4, so please do not think I am not using your advice, it is just that I already moved on so far).

Thank you for the quick reply ^^.

First, wow sorry that was embarassing, I checked your post so often because I was sure there has to be one part where you study from reference and I wanted to avoid asking you again for exactly that reason ^^´´, like not seeing the mayonaise in the fridge directly in front of you (part of me knew this would happen).

Yea this makes sense and I thought that the imagination part was a good idea, I was just confused because as it seems I missed your part about checking the reference, multiple times ^^´´.

Ah ok thanks for including this information about textures, this way it seems better for me.

This fact about mixing up stuff while learning, is actually something I already learned about in "general / meta learning", but I did not thought this would apply to drawing (also because I got bombarded with people telling me to study one thing very often). Nice to know that this applys too :).

But thanks anyway for sharing it! Really interesting and as you said, science really is a better source than just opinion, let´s me realize that yea maybe there are good artists who tell how good some method for learning is, but maybe they just think that because they learned no other method and still got good through a lot of time, but needed a lot more time because their method was bad. So with a better method they could have done what they have done, far more effective.

Thank you, you too and thanks for the answers ^^.

Ok, first, thank you for this long detailed answer :).

The method you describe sounds really interesting and I am going to try it :D.

There are just some parts that bother me: this method relys completely on imagination, but I heared from so many artists how important it is to study from reference, so should there not be a part in the exercise where you check if you actually did it right o.o?

Also, I am more of an "form and construction" loving person than a "rendering and detail" person ^^´´, but don´t you need some reference to also study the texture and smaller details of an object, in order to draw it from imagination?

And I often got the information that you should study one subject rather often and long, instead of multiple subjects only briefly.

I saw a video about a method that got some similar steps and I think this imagination step, instead of studying too much from reference sounds like a good idea, but I am still a bit unsure, there just seem to be very different opinions going around on how to study to create a good visual library o.O.

Again, thank you for the answer, I am going to try this for some days and look how it works for me :D.

Thank you Weijak and Sevey 13! Since I did not expect to get more answers to my post, I already moved on, but I am definitly going to implement your suggestions now that I red them, thank you :D.

Thank you for your reply :). Seems like I did better than I expected ^^´´. Yea those smaller ranges of rotation made the exercise very difficutl, but thanks for the tip :).