Kizylle

Thanks! Yeah I did the elipses around objects thing without much consideration and completely forgot about it til organic intersections. I'm still rather happy with how it came out in the end.

I don't believe I had any issue figuring out where the elipses should be during organic intersections #2, but there were a few messed up executions that ended up warping the perspective in a way I wasn't intending.

Still, though, I feel like I came away from this lesson having a pretty good understanding of the concept now, even if I fail the actual execution from lack of practice.

If I could afford ctrl+paint I wouldn't be doing these exercises digitally, haha.

I scrounged up a single piece of sketchbook paper & an office ballpoint ink pen made out of recycled cardboard that I got a few years ago at a fare. Hopefully they'll be enough to show that I've learnt this lesson even if I did it digitally. Just as a heads up, the only table with enough space to work on is made out of chipped wood, so a few lines are a bit wonkey.

Anyways, here are the exercises you requested to see done traditionally. I think it's fairly easy to see that they're more or less the same as the digitally done ones.

https://imgur.com/a/eTzspne

If you look closely on the ghosted planes, there's a little arrow pointing to a double line. My cheap ink pen stopped inking like 1/5th through the line so I had to do a pass over. But I believe it's the only time the pen died on me, so it's the only line that I had to pass over.

Hopefully this digital / traditional comparison will help you in the future when it comes to critiquing people who are using digital!

Edit, Oh and sorry for bad quality on the images. I'm not exactly a photographer, so my phone's camera leaves a lot to be desired.

Sadly it's not a matter of me not wanting to do these exercises in ink, but me not having the materials nor money nor space to do them in ink (My tablet was a gift given to me for my birthday a few years ago, and even then it was purchased at a huge discount.)

As for space, I've had to remove part of my graphic tablet's stand just so it would fit on my desk.

Don't get me wrong -- I completely 100% agree that I would get much much more mileage from doing it with traditional methods, and if I had the materials I would switch to it in a heartbeat, but I am just currently unable to. If it is absolutely necessary, however, I may be able to scrounge up a few pieces of paper and a office ball point ink pen if I look hard enough.

As for CTRL-Z, yes I am already trying to fix this habit. I have been drawing extremely pale lines since childhood, erasing until my drawings became blotchy messes, this is a nasty habit I am working towards getting rid of for these lessons ASAP.

As for your uncertainty on digital mistakes - There are no real tangible mistakes that can be done digitally that aren't done traditionally. At worse, using incorrect canvas resolutions, zooming (Which I avoided altogether by unbinding my scroll wheel), etc.

The biggest difference I can see is that the pen doesn't have as much friction as regular drawing tools, leading to more overshoots.

It is up to you to mark my lesson as complete or not, and while I would personally think it's a little silly to not mark it as complete over something you yourself said you are "unfamiliar with", it's not up to me to make these decisions. Also thanks for the heads up, if I do run into a hurdle and don't get critiques due to using digital, I'll ask the discord instead.

Oh, and sure. I'll switch my pen settings so the pen pressure is more apparent. I could swear uncomfortable said to use fineliners and not ink pens and to just go over a line again to make it more apparent, though.

Yeah, the superimposed lines had to be drawn on a weird angle I'm not used to in order to not shrink the image (which would be missing the point of making lines longer)

In practice, yes ctrl+z is the ghosting equivalent for digital art, but in terms of learning art it's far closer to erasing which is one of the reason we are using feltline pens, not to erase. It puts more emphasis on taking into planning ahead of time what marks you're going to make, which god knows I need to practice.

Good day to you too!