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    1:22 PM, Tuesday May 31st 2022

    Thanks!

    1:52 PM, Monday May 30th 2022

    Hi!

    Thanks for the feedback, sorry it took a while. This is my revision:

    https://imgur.com/a/M9DqOvY

    I still feel like I didn't really nail all the advice you gave me, but hopefully its a little bit of an improvement.

    Thanks

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    9:15 PM, Saturday May 14th 2022

    Lines

    They are generally good and they improve over the set. However, there are a couple things you could work on.

    Firstly, some of your lines are a little bit wobbly. I know its tough to draw them straight but you should always focus on confidence of your lines over the accuracy.

    There’s also a little bit of fraying of your lines when you go over them specifically in the superimposed line. Fraying at the end is normal, but there shouldn’t really be any at the starting point so try to be mindful of starting at the same point every time.

    Ellipses

    Here as well mainly a good job.

    On the ellipse tables, keeping the ellipses should be kept within the bounds, each ellipse touching each other, without overlapping. Remember to prioritize confidence over accuracy. Your accuracy will improve with practice.

    On funnels, some of your ellipses look a little wobbly. Just like with lines, the ellipses must be drawn confidently, prioritizing confidence and smoothness, over accuracy, so try to draw them a little bit more confident like on your table of ellipses.

    Boxes

    Again, generally solid work.

    On some of you exercises it looks like you drew over lines multiple times. Remember no matter how bad a line was drawn you should not draw over it again, with the exception of drawing over once to emphasize the outline.

    On rough perspective, width lines should be parallel to the horizon and height lines perpendicular to the horizon. I know this can be difficult, but try your best to keep them aligned.

    On rotated boxes, your spacing is a bit off. Remember that each box in between the top and center should be spaced relatively evenly. Maybe check this out? https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/organicperspective

    Organic perspective have a few perspective issues. The boxes should also rotate as they move through space. But you'll be doing 250 boxes next which will really help with that, so no need to worry about that.

    Overall though nice job! You've completed lesson 1!! I've outlined the next steps below.

    Next Steps:

    Congrats on finishing lesson 1!! Your next step is the 250 box challenge.

    As I marked this as complete, you are now qualified to critique lesson 1 submissions.

    -Doing critiques is a good way of learning and solidifying concepts. Critiquing can help expose your own gaps in knowledge and is a great review.

    -Current submissions are also super high. If you do some critiques, those would be less critiques myself and others have to do before reaching your next submissions, so you'd get your critiques faster. The new system ordering submissions also makes it so that the more agrees your critiques have the higher you'll be placed in the queue of submissions, which will improve your chances of getting critiques faster as well.

    It's totally optional of course, but me and others who are critiquing would appreciate it if you gave it a shot.

    There's a really awesome community member named Elodin who critiqued my lesson 1 and most of the credit for the critiquing framework I used goes to him. He made a pretty useful guide on critiquing lesson 1 submissions here: https://pastebin.com/dYnFt9PQ.

    There are a few people that feel hesitant to critique because they feel they aren't ready to. I certainly felt that way and didn't start critiquing until a few months after I completed lesson 1, but once I started it helped a lot. Since you've completed lesson 1 you shouldn't feel like you aren't ready.

    Good luck on the box challenge, and keep up the good work!

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    8:54 PM, Saturday May 14th 2022

    Congrats on finishing the box challenge! The folding is not a problem at all you uploads are very clean! Overall your boxes are pretty solid. But here are a few things to keep in mind so you can keep improving:

    Extending lines far enough

    Some of your line extensions fall short and don't give you all the info about their vanishing points. The goal of extending the lines is to see if they converge properly. So when extending your lines do it all the way through, don't be afraid of lines colliding with other boxes.

    Divergences and parallel lines.

    Sometimes some sets of lines in your boxes are parallel or even start to diverge a little. Remember that in 3 point perspective; lines will always converge and get closer, even if it's just a little or barely noticeable.

    Similar orientations with boxes.

    You have some variation to your boxes which is good. But there are still a couple patterns I see you falling into. Especially having a standard six boxes in the same locations each time. It looks very neat but don't be scared to try out different sizes or layouts!

    I recommend checking out this picture: https://imgur.com/Kqg6uMX. It has a lot of different box orientations. Keep in mind though that the aim of the box challenge is to draw from imagination, not from reference, so don't straight up copy them.

    Inner corner

    Finally, the inner corner. It looks like it's still giving you trouble by the end of the challenge, and that's completely normal. Here are a few things that made tackling it a bit easier for me.

    First, try this order for drawing boxes.

    https://imgur.com/FGdtVwm

    Second, you could try to think about relationships of each line on a set instead of thinking of pairs will make you make better guesses. It's explained on this diagram.

    https://imgur.com/8PqQLE0

    Advanced exercises

    Overall, nice job! Generally your boxes are pretty solid; your line confidence is especially good. Additionally, Once you get more comfortable with the inner corner I recommend looking into the additional exercises here: https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/2.. Good luck on lesson 2 and keep up the good work! :)

    Next Steps:

    Next Steps:

    Lesson 2

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    3:34 PM, Saturday May 14th 2022

    Congrats on finishing the box challenge! Your line confidence is awesome, so great job on that! Overall your boxes are pretty solid. But here are a few things to keep in mind so you can keep improving:

    Extending lines far enough

    Most of your extensions are fine, but a couple are a little short and don't give you all the info about their vanishing points. So when extending your lines do it all the way through, don't be afraid of lines colliding with other boxes.

    Divergences and parallel lines.

    Sometimes some sets of lines in your boxes are parallel or even start to diverge a little. Remember that in 3 point perspective; lines will always converge and get closer, even if it's just a little or barely noticeable.

    Line weight

    It looked like most of your boxes did not have line wight contours. Great job on not repeating lines but the countours can help out, so I'll just share it just in case. The contours help clarify your drawing to a viewer and to solidify how your box sits in space. Maybe check this out: https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/1/lineweight

    Similar orientations with boxes.

    You have a lot of variation to your boxes which is great! But there are still a couple patterns I see you falling into.

    I recommend checking out this picture: https://imgur.com/Kqg6uMX. It has a lot of different box orientations. Keep in mind though that the aim of the box challenge is to draw from imagination, not from reference, so don't straight up copy them.

    Inner corner

    Finally, the inner corner. It looks like it's still giving you trouble by the end of the challenge, and that's completely normal. Here are a few things that made tackling it a bit easier for me.

    First, try this order for drawing boxes.

    https://imgur.com/FGdtVwm

    Second, you could try to think about relationships of each line on a set instead of thinking of pairs will make you make better guesses. It's explained on this diagram.

    https://imgur.com/8PqQLE0

    Also I couldn't find your last 5 boxes, I only saw up to 245. But obviously I don't doubt that you didn't do them lol, they probably just got lost somewhere or something just wanted to let you know.

    Advanced exercises

    Overall, nice job! Generally your boxes are pretty solid; your line confidence is especially good. Additionally, Once you get more comfortable with the inner corner I recommend looking into the additional exercises here: https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/2.. Good luck on lesson 2 and keep up the good work! :)

    Next Steps:

    Lesson 2

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    3:26 PM, Saturday May 14th 2022

    Lines

    They are generally good and they improve over the set. However, there are a couple things you could work on.

    Firstly, some of your lines are a little bit wobbly. I know its tough to draw them straight but you should always focus on confidence of your lines over the accuracy.

    There’s also a little bit of fraying of your lines when you go over them specifically in the superimposed line. Fraying at the end is normal, but there shouldn’t really be any at the starting point so try to be mindful of starting at the same point every time.

    Ellipses

    Here as well mainly a good job. Your confidence improves dramatically over the set which is awesome.

    On the ghosted planes a lot of your ellipses an edge or two. Some of them are pretty far away from the edge. Just try to make sure the ellipses are hitting every edge

    On the ellipse tables, keeping the ellipses should be kept within the bounds, each ellipse touching each other, without overlapping. Although your prioritization of confidence over accuracy is great, your accuracy will improve with practice.

    On funnels, some of your ellipses look a little wobbly. Just like with lines, the ellipses must be drawn confidently, prioritizing confidence and smoothness, over accuracy, so try to draw them a little bit more confident like on your table of ellipses.

    Boxes

    Again, generally solid work.

    On a lot of you exercises it looks like you drew over lines multiple times. Remember no matter how bad a line was drawn you should not draw over it again, with the exception of drawing over once to emphasize the outline.

    On rough perspective, width lines should be parallel to the horizon and height lines perpendicular to the horizon. I know this can be difficult, but try your best to keep them aligned.

    On rotated boxes, I think you drew too many "layers" there only needs to be 4 boxes in each "corner" but it looks like you drew 9 giving it a kind of cluttered look.

    Organic perspective have a few perspective issues, but generally look pretty nice, and you'll be doing 250 boxes next which will really help with that, so no need to worry about that.

    Overall though nice job! You've completed lesson 1!! I've outlined the next steps below.

    Next Steps:

    Congrats on finishing lesson 1!! Your next step is the 250 box challenge.

    As I marked this as complete, you are now qualified to critique lesson 1 submissions.

    -Doing critiques is a good way of learning and solidifying concepts. Critiquing can help expose your own gaps in knowledge and is a great review.

    -Current submissions are also super high. If you do some critiques, those would be less critiques myself and others have to do before reaching your next submissions, so you'd get your critiques faster. The new system ordering submissions also makes it so that the more agrees your critiques have the higher you'll be placed in the queue of submissions, which will improve your chances of getting critiques faster as well.

    It's totally optional of course, but me and others who are critiquing would appreciate it if you gave it a shot.

    There's a really awesome community member named Elodin who critiqued my lesson 1 and most of the credit for the critiquing framework I used goes to him. He made a pretty useful guide on critiquing lesson 1 submissions here: https://pastebin.com/dYnFt9PQ.

    There are a few people that feel hesitant to critique because they feel they aren't ready to. I certainly felt that way and didn't start critiquing until a few months after I completed lesson 1, but once I started it helped a lot. Since you've completed lesson 1 you shouldn't feel like you aren't ready.

    Good luck on the box challenge, and keep up the good work!

    This community member feels the lesson should be marked as complete. In order for the student to receive their completion badge, this critique will need 2 agreements from other members of the community.
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    9:07 PM, Sunday May 1st 2022

    Hi! Drawing 250 boxes takes a lot of commitment and patientce so nice job on that! However, your boxes still have a decent amount they can be improved on.

    ---Extending lines properly

    A big mistake I noticed is you very often extended the lines in the wrong direction. This mistake is present throught the entire set until the last page.

    This is a pretty important part so I'd recommend looking at this: https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/1/wrongdirection.

    The point of the lines is to see how the boxes converge, so they should be going away from the viewer not towards the viewer. I know this can be a little tricky, but bascially they should be going the oppoiste way of the face of the box.

    For example, 245 and 246 have all three sets of lines going the wrong way.

    ---Divergences and parallel lines.

    A lot of sets of lines in your boxes are parallel or even start to diverge a little. Remember that in 3 point perspective; lines will always converge and get closer, even if it's just a little or barely noticeable.

    ---Similar orientations with boxes.

    Another thing I noticed is that a lot of your boxes are very similar, sometimes it looks like you tried to draw basically the same perspective a couple times in a row. Drawing the same exact box over and over again is not very helpful as your just learning how to draw that specific box and not overall construction of a box object.

    I recommend checking out this picture: https://imgur.com/Kqg6uMX. It has a lot of different box orientations. Keep in mind though that the aim of the box challenge is to draw from imagination, not from reference, so don't straight up copy them.

    Your lineweight and confidence good, you hatched sometimes (although you could probably do it more often to make clear your boxes orientation), and you tend to extend your lines far enough which are all great.

    However, because the above concepts are so important especially extending your lines properly and drawing converging lines I think you should probably try 3 or 4 more pages of boxes drawn with properly extended lines before moving onto lesson 2.

    Once you resubmit I'll be happy to look over them. Please let me know if you have any questions about any of the critique.

    Next Steps:

    3-4 Pages of boxes

    When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
    6:48 PM, Tuesday June 8th 2021

    Glad I could help!

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    7:57 PM, Thursday June 3rd 2021

    Congrats on finishing the box challenge! I can see your boxes improving over the challenge so I think you did learn a lot and since that was the point of the challenge you did good! Overall your boxes are pretty solid. But here are a few things to keep in mind so you can keep improving:

    ---Lines

    Remember to use all you learned in how to make good lines from lesson 1. Your lines and lineweight are a bit wobbly and messy throughout the set, however they definetley improve over the set especially near the end so keep that up!

    ---Extending lines far enough

    You have a tendency to not extend your lines far enough, and because of that, they are sometimes not enough to tell you where your mistakes are. So when extending your lines do it all the way through, don't be afraid of lines colliding with other boxes.

    ---Divergences and parallel lines.

    Sometimes some sets of lines in your boxes are parallel or even start to diverge a little. Remember that in 3 point perspective; lines will always converge and get closer, even if it's just a little or barely noticeable.

    ---Repeating Lines

    Generally, you did a great job of not repeating lines, however it does look like it appears in a couple of places. Just remember that the point of drawing a line once is so that you can use it as reference to learn and improve. If there are too many lines it becomes hard to pinpoint why it looks wrong.

    ---Similar orientations with boxes.

    I think your biggest room for improvment is your variation. You have a lot of similar boxes. Remember the length of the lines of the Y can have any proportion, the right line can be super long and the other ones be super short etc. And same with the angles, the combination of angles between the lines of the Y are limitless, as long as the angles are always over 90 degrees. By drawing the same kind of box your not fully grasping how the box can move through 3D space.

    I recommend checking out this picture: https://imgur.com/Kqg6uMX. It has a lot of different box orientations. Keep in mind though that the aim of the box challenge is to draw from imagination, not from reference, so don't straight up copy them.

    ---Inner corner

    Finally, the inner corner. It looks like it's still giving you trouble by the end of the challenge, and that's completely normal. Here are a few things that made tackling it a bit easier for me.

    First, try this order for drawing boxes.

    https://imgur.com/FGdtVwm

    Second, you could try to think about relationships of each line on a set instead of thinking of pairs will make you make better guesses. It's explained on this diagram.

    https://imgur.com/8PqQLE0

    Advanced exercises

    Overall, nice job! Generally your boxes are pretty solid; your box quality is improving throughout, and I can tell your learning from your past attempts. Additionally, once you get more comfortable with the inner corner I recommend looking into the additional exercises here: https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/2.. Good luck on lesson 2 and keep up the good work! :)

    Next Steps:

    Lesson 2!

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    7:49 PM, Thursday June 3rd 2021

    Congrats on finishing the box challenge! First off I wanna say I love the colors you picked for extending your lines, and your line confidence is awesome, so great job on that! Overall your boxes are pretty solid. But here are a few things to keep in mind so you can keep improving:

    ---Extending lines far enough

    You have a tendency to not extend your lines far enough, and because of that, they are sometimes not enough to tell you where your mistakes are. So when extending your lines do it all the way through, don't be afraid of lines colliding with other boxes.

    Also it seems like some of your lines are extending in the wrong direction, this is a pretty important one so I'd recommend looking at this: https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/1/wrongdirection Essentially the lines should always go towards the vanishing point. The majority of your boxes were fine, but there were more then a few that were the wrong direction, so be careful about that.

    ---Divergences and parallel lines.

    Sometimes some sets of lines in your boxes are parallel or even start to diverge a little. Remember that in 3 point perspective; lines will always converge and get closer, even if it's just a little or barely noticeable.

    ---Hatching lines

    While hatching lines are optional, I would strongly recommend doing it in general as it helps convey how your box exists in 3D space more clearly i.e. it makes the front of the face box clear which by extension helps with understanding the box's orientation.

    ---Lineweight

    I couldn't tell if you had lineweight contours on most of your boxes because of the extended lines, so I'll just share it just in case. The contours help clarify your drawing to a viewer and to solidify how your box sits in space. Maybe check this out: https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/1/lineweight

    ---Similar orientations with boxes.

    You have a lot of variation to your boxeswhich is great! But there are still a couple patterns I see you falling into.

    I recommend checking out this picture: https://imgur.com/Kqg6uMX. It has a lot of different box orientations. Keep in mind though that the aim of the box challenge is to draw from imagination, not from reference, so don't straight up copy them.

    ---Inner corner

    Finally, the inner corner. It looks like it's still giving you trouble by the end of the challenge, and that's completely normal. Here are a few things that made tackling it a bit easier for me.

    First, try this order for drawing boxes.

    https://imgur.com/FGdtVwm

    Second, you could try to think about relationships of each line on a set instead of thinking of pairs will make you make better guesses. It's explained on this diagram.

    https://imgur.com/8PqQLE0

    Additionally, in the I noticed you were using the backsides of already printed sheets. It's awesome your reusing paper helps the environment and is fiscally smart, but it made some of your boxes a little hard to understand especially in the ~185-227ish range. So if you can try to get blank paper, or reuse paper that doesn't show on the other side. Not a huge deal tho, most of the boxes I could see pretty clearly.

    Advanced exercises

    Overall, nice job! Generally your boxes are pretty solid; your line confidence is especially good. Additionally, Once you get more comfortable with the inner corner I recommend looking into the additional exercises here: https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/2.. Good luck on lesson 2 and keep up the good work! :)

    Next Steps:

    Lesson 2

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