Lesson 2: Contour Lines, Texture and Construction

3:17 PM, Sunday September 20th 2020

Lesson 2 submisoon - Google Photos

0: https://photos.app.goo.gl/8vesUSbi9CbAWKm5A

One of the texture images is a "duplicate" as it's a previous pic of the same paper but better quality. It does however lack one of the sasauges so just combine them.

Also i am aware i made a misstake with the "grass" and plants in that i drew to much line art for the plants and not shadows.

Also i did a horrible job with the sasauges as i feel very confused/lack of cordination due to not using the spines anymore.

Anyhow hope you enjoy.

RIP AND TEAR!

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10:05 PM, Monday September 21st 2020

Hey what's up. It is critique time :)

-Let's start with your arrows.

I notice that one page for the majority does not compress but the one on the left does do it. The other page of arrows show more of compression like shown in this example. Don't forget to give a bit of line weight when an overlap is going on.

-organic forms

On your first page where ellipses are done with only one fully done ellipse. For a confident ellipse you keep ghosting around the minor axis until you put down your mark and draw through 2-3 times to make it close properly.

Some sausages look funny where it is very round on one side and more deflated as it goes on.

Most of them seem to be done incorrectly on the first page with off axis allignment. For the axis going through ghosting works to keep it on the middle as close as possible making ellipses more accurate too as long as you don't turn them too much. You did however, use ellipses to make it look like it's going through 3D space more.

The second page you did went great compared to the first page sausage form wise! Only things about those is that make sure the line is going completely going through the sausage and that even if they are only contour lines, they should still be drawn like an ellipse when ghost and only draw the outer side and make sure to overshoot it so it looks like it's going around the sausage. i'd suggest reading through the page of organic forms again and add them to your warm-up list. I had to mention it earlier but every exercise except textures can be added to your warm-up list.

-texture analysis

I's will be difficult to give critique on a page that is not completly filled but i'll do my best to give critique on what you have. This will be added to revisions as this page is not shown complete.

Looking at the first analysis you did only look at shadow shapes. Your gradient on the other hand is lacking some shadow shapes. It is easy to see the black bar the beginning and the white bar at the end. Don't be afraid to really push the dark side that slowly fades. The beginning is very dark with a lot of shadow, the middle is the transition, the in between and from the middle more light seeps into the gradient where shadow shapes appear less and less until you reach the far right where barely any shadow shapes are visible. Also fill the shadow shapes in properly. too much white can distract you. a way to look where cast shadows are is by squinting your eyes. by squinting details fade away more and shadow shapes come more and easier to see.

Alligator skin in the middle part look to have complete shapes that don't have much to do with shadow. Could you show your ref of that one? i'd like to be sure what you did there. Can't say much anymore here as the other gradients and texture are missing.

-dissections

I don't really see any of them wrap around the form like this one

when going around the form the edges have way thinner forms compared to the middle. For example; think about how a marble rolls around a ball. When you start seeing it you only see the top and as it rolls towards you (for the sausage towards the middle) the more you see of the marble. When it has reached the middle it will roll away and go around the form slowly being less visible again. About breaking the silhouette, you did it here and there but not consistent enough. Best i can think of is like the marble again but you can only see the tippy top of it breaking the form. I did see that one of the insides of the dissections is a raspberry? It looks very flat compared to the bubbly looking fruit. I think with things like that you can have the outter side have some bulbs breaking out of the ellipse to make it appear bubbly.

-form intersection

Let's start with that yes, you did do 4 pages as required, one page needed to be boxes only.

When doing cylinders give them an axis. Don't keep shapes alone, they have to be with the other form intersecting or not. You did keep perspective consistent and shallow but do give your cylinders variety as i noticed they are a bit same looking with angles.

-And finally organic intersections

You said you had trouble with these because you removed the spine/axis. Thing is, you don't have to remove it. you start with the sausages and then can add the spine and then add the contour curves.

They also don't seem to look simple. Keep it simple like its 2 balls being connected with a tube. You did give them a shadow that follows the form they're on but keep in mind to also ghost those. If the sausage stays close to the one its laying on it remains a small shadown and when it stays relatively high and doesn't when it doesn't follow it to the end.

Last thing to say is that some of your sausages float. They shouldn't and have to be like water balloons that are dropped onto each other. they don't float but they sag following the form of the one it's laying on. Maybe unfomcfys video will clear some things up

All in all, you had a lot of trouble and i'd like to see some revisions of a couple things either not done or not understood.

If you have any questions feel free to ask and i will try to answer them to the best of my ability.

Next Steps:

-Finish up texture analysis

-Do 1 page of form intersections only consisting of boxes

-read and watch uncomfortable's video about organic intersection and do this exercise again if things have cleared up.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
2:52 PM, Friday September 25th 2020

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8vesUSbi9CbAWKm5A

That should have the missing texture/box paper(sorry i forgot ot post those) as well as another sasauge/organic intersection.

For the organic intersection i feel quite confident in my understanding of it. I just cant do the shapes properly. I can visualise what i want and how it should be but the moment it s time to draw i just fail because i find it hard to give the proper depth etc. I find it hard to decsribe.

I am also aware of texture rotation and breaking silouthe etc. I was just quite bad at it then.

Anyhow i will continue to improve there i hope.

Here you go.

7:00 PM, Friday September 25th 2020
edited at 7:01 PM, Sep 25th 2020

Aight, let's see shall we?

Looking at the remaining textures i see you had a lot of trouble doing them and i'm not blaming you. I think when you feel you're ready for it you can try to do the texture challenge if you want more practice with this.

Form intersection boxes look nice but the intersections themselves are difficult to see and i think some line weight (going over it again to make the line thicker) does the trick.

Your sausages look a lot better and give more weight to them. Looks a bit small but they have a feeling of weight. Only real issue is the shadows. I went over it with red lines where they go. it isn't perfect but it does the job

Adding these to your warm-up routine along the other exercises from lesson 2 (other than dissection and texture) will make you slowly but surely improve.

Gonna mark this as complete, you understand the basics as far as i've seen and it's time for you to see the other part of Draw a Box, constructional drawing!

Next Steps:

Move on to lesson 3 and when ready pick up texture challenge. Do the texture challenge along side the lessons though. Don't fully focus on it like the other challenges.

Good luck!

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edited at 7:01 PM, Sep 25th 2020
7:51 PM, Friday September 25th 2020

Thank you for your time! I am glad you wanted to help and that i seem to have imrpoved a little bit just from your feedback. I will keep doing these things in warmup along with everyhting else and hope to see improvment.

Thank you!

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