11:32 AM, Sunday September 12th 2021
YAY! Optimum Kitten You have shown Quite a lot of Improvements at the End of this Challenge.We can say that your spatial Reasoning has much more Improved than in the Earlier Boxes.
Ha Ha! Imgur is sometimes a pain in the Ass. okay lets roll the Intro!
Hey Optimum! I'm Chiran and I decided to look over your submission and offer my Advises on it as best and helpful as possible.
before we get started these are the name given specifically because of their order and to represent the specific section of the boxes
Newbies - ( 1-100 boxes) 2. Intermediates - (101-200 boxes) and 3. pros - ( 201- 250 boxes).
This feed back will consists of three parts. Alrighty! lets start exploring the three parts. Shall we?
PART 1: THE PRAISES ( The job you did well in the challenge) :)
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Checking your mistakes: your mistakes are slowly reducing in the challenge because of the line extention method (that is checking your mistakes by extending the correction lines away from the viewer) , because of this your Intermediates and pros are looking good. so thats great!
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while line weight and hatching are optional in this challenge. You did a solid job on using those tools to reinforce the form you are constructing ( in this case box) and thereby providing a more visual Info to the viewer. we advice you to continue to use those tools even in warm ups to build mileages with them.
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I can say that you are building a sense of confidence and patience in drawing your boxes by plotting down the starting and end points of the lines first before executing them or before committing them, so thats nice.
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another job you did well was constructing various varieties of boxes in this challenge without repeating the similar type of boxes. so thats great too!
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You got some pretty decent amount of convergence on the intermediates and pros so good job on that too!
PART 2: WHERE IT WENT SLIGHTLY OFF? ( Where you should keep an eye on) ( No worries part!)
You are on the right track and you have understood the concept of perspective very well so the box challenge has done its job.but there are hiccups in your work that needs to be identified and removed.
so yeah I will do my job to mention and identify some of the minor issues in your works and you can do your job by including 1-2 boxes in your warm ups to reduce them in the future.
Starting from your lines:
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the main Issue that is present in your submission is repeating or re create or correcting your lines. I believe It has a bad habit and we know that Repeating or correcting the lines Even when they went off is a mistake in this Course. One thing we can do to reduce them is being aware of your habits and conscious of your mistakes while drawing. so when you again find in a situation where you are tempted to repeat the lines, then call it out loudly ( loudly) to yourself - " Hey I'm repeating this line and I must stop It and move on thinking nothing had happened cuz If I repeat this lines It will definitely became a dangerous bad habit"
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Your line work looks really solid, smooth and confident but they are times where you seem to hesitate while executing resulting in a slow and wobbly lines. These Issues will take time to reduce but you should always be constantly Aware of your mistakes and work towards them by trying your best to avoid them in the warm ups. They will definitely get better and better through practice.
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Sometimes your hatching lines are not planned before executing. So we advise you to take your time to plan ( planning means plotting down the points and ghosting over them before executing) even the hatching lines and super imposed lines and execute them from your shoulder with confidence as the utmost priority. Don't get caught up on accuracy cuz It will create wobbly and uneven Lines.
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Little note on line weight.- line weight which is added to the silhouette to the box ( or body of the box) is a great tool to reinforce the form we are conveying to the viewer ( in this case box). they can also became a bad tool if we use them to hide our mistakes by going overboard with them. so always we advise to not go overboard with them. but instead try your best to be subtle with the line weight.
Now jumping to Boxes:
- of course you had improved throughout the challenge but there are times where some of the set of lines converges at a faster rates than the others resulting in converging in pairs. yep this issue you can definitely work on, in your warm ups. by trying to know the relationships between each lines related to its distance.https://imgur.com/KSHwTwo
It's completely and totally normal to have the back corner line slightly off compared to the rest.they have significantly improved at end of your work so nice job!.
It would have been better If you had taken time to Construct Some Extreme foreshortening and bigger boxes in this Challenge to build some better mileages and spatial Ability with Them also ( sine most of the newbies and Intermediates in your work are focused mainly on Shallow foreshortening).and there are times where you sometimes construct similar types of boxes in alternative pages .Shallow foreshortening boxes are Important because most of the time this is what is Demanded in the physical World. but Extreme foreshortening boxes are also Important when we want to convey more information in a scene like fish Eye perspective.
PART 3: THE JOB WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE OUR BOXES IN OUR WARM UPS
You're making good progress towards understanding the concepts introduced in this challenge, below I'll be listing some things that will hopefully help you in your future attempts at these boxes.
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Always make an effort to take your time while adding line weight and hatching to boxes in order to reinforce the solidity we are conveying. make sure to plan them before executing them.because every marks we make should serve its purposes.
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THE INNER CORNER PARADOX: In this challenge, we are estimating where our lines going to converge to a point. as we are humans, it is almost impossible to perfectly estimate where our lines will going to converge thereby resulting in an error. this error will continue to accumulate as we construct the box freely rotated in space. finally this accumulated error will be thrown to the back corner. So its pretty normal to have the inner back corner come out pretty off.
I want to take a look at this info here;https://i.imgur.com/8PqQLE0.png
In this image we can know that how each line will behave relating to the position from its neighbouring edges and the VP.So we can arrive at the conclusion that, If the distance between the internal edges and external edges gets reduce more and more they will eventually become parallel to one and another ( but keep in mind they will converge slightly at a negligable amount no matter what). Alternatively If the distance between the internal corner and the external grow more and more the internal line will also converge.
you can also try and start from the back corner if the box is narrower.https://imgur.com/a/DHlA3Jh.
if your aware of these notes, then you need to build mileage by including 1-2 boxes in your daily warm up routine. after that your boxes will get better and better and will eventually make you happy at the end. :D
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Even if your Ink flow is inconsistent please do not repeat or re attempt or re create your lines. so again try your best to move on that nothing has happened.we should continue treat every lines with respect How do we treat with respect?- first we should plan where our lines will start and end by plotting the points and ghost them several times ( hovering in motion) and draw them with confidence and from the shoulder.
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And as always continue to experiment with your boxes and have fun with it. try to construct some bigger and extreme foreshortening boxes as well in your warm ups. experimentation, observation and results ( like in practicals :D) is always important for our growth.
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Last thing which is worth Reminding here is that Speed of execution: when to increase the speed of drawing the lines and when to slow down?
If the lines came out dark, wobbly, contains subtle S curve and undershooted then increasing the speed of drawing your lines can reduce these issues. however if the lines are overshooting more and the flow of ink in your pen is inconsistent then its advisable to reduce the speed and try to lift the pen off the page when reaching the end dot.
feel free to experiment with different speed of drawing your lines from point A to point B during your warm up session and opt for the smooth and consistent ones. Increasing the speed of execution can really help in reducing wobbly lines and subtle S curves.. And it can also help in reducing the course correction of your lines too!.
Always make sure you are starting at the Starting dot exactly after the ghosting job.
yes We should continue to use ghosting method, drawing from shoulder and make sure that We are always use our arm to get the best flow as possible.
Now coming to Important point :
Of course you had done great job on putting lots of focus, energy and time in completing this Challenge so hats off for that. but there are things I feel like that you need to improve on them some more. I just want to bring you to the right path so Unfortunately I'm asking for a revision of 15 boxes. man it definitely feels bad to give revisions on this Challenge but I just want to make sure that you are understanding the purposes
THE REVISION: WHAT ARE THE REVISION?
15 Boxes - 5 per pages
HOW TO TACKLE THE REVISION?
Keep in mind the Above mentioned points over there and work towards that goal. Try your best as you can but don't expect perfectionism!
first priority= Executing with confidence
second priority=even if we have to sacrifice accuracy We should always continue to use ghosting method, drawing from shoulder and make sure that We are always use our arm to get the best flow as possible.
Include some bigger and extreme foreshortening boxes along with shallow foreshortening.
The point of this revision is not to expect some wonderful works but instead its just to remind you what you should be focus on while working toward these exercises.
understand the materials at your own pace and execute to your best. there is no deadline to it so take all the time you need because it is definitely worth your time. so I believe that you will take my feed back to the heart and work with it.
I'm awaiting to your response. I hope this helps. have a nice day!
Thank you OPTIMUM!
Next Steps:
THE REVISION:
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15 boxes - 5 box per page
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Focus on executing smooth, confident lines from your shoulder and plan before execution.
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Do not tend to repeat your lines.
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Having any questions related to this feed back. Feel free to ask in the reply section or ping me in the draw a box discord server.
I know You can do this. Good luck Mate!
THANK YOU!