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    5:51 PM, Tuesday September 15th 2020

    Congratulations on finishing the lesson 1 homework!

    Lines: Looking good. They appear straight and confident with control.

    Ellipses: Overall looking good in terms of shape. I notice a little wobble/deformation in some of them, so just make sure to always be drawing from your shoulder in a smooth, confident motion. It looks like you are working with a smaller sketchbook and I think you did the tables of ellipses way too small. It's impossible to get the proper shoulder drawing motion if you are working on such a small scale. Rather than doing four pages of very small ellipses to equal two pages of larger paper as the assignment recommends, you should be using those four smaller pages to draw a smaller amount of larger ellipses per page. I recommend redoing at least a page or two of tables of ellipses with more space to work.

    Boxes: Great rotation on your rotated boxes exercises. In fact, it looks almost too perfect. Make sure you are not sacrificing practicing your skills in favor of creating an attractive exercise. At this point in the lessons, you should always be drawing from your shoulder and using ghosted lines. In the organic perspective exercise, you've created a sense of depth with scale but you haven't used overlap at all. Take another look at the example homeworks from the lesson or other community homeworks to see how others have pushed overlap to create depth - even sometimes having the front boxes extending out of frame. I recommend trying this exercise at least one more time and overlapping your boxes in front of each other as they move forward in the image.

    Next Steps:

    Go ahead and move on the 250 box challenge, though I did recommend redoing a couple exercises I won't require you to post them here. I think overall you got the point of the exercises and are ready to move on, as long as you are drawing with your shoulder. You could try doing them as a warm up before a drawing session.

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    5:35 PM, Tuesday September 15th 2020

    Great submission! Overall I think your lines are looking quite nice.

    Lines: Looking good. Sometimes they go way too far (like on the corners of your planes), so work on your control - practice being able to not just make a good line, but stop it where you want it to stop.

    Ellipses: It looks like you've drawn through every ellipse 3 full times. While this is technically allowed for the exercises, I think based on your ellipses (which are mostly looking well formed) you could stick to just 2 times and wind up with cleaner ellipses. In some of your ellipses in planes, it looks like you've deformed some of them to reach the edges of the planes, resulting in squashed or lumpy ellipses. While your goal should be to touch the edges, your focus should be on forming the ellipses well even if they don't touch the edges.

    Boxes: Great job on organic perspective, which can be a tough one. You have some issues with the perspective on the boxes but you'll work on it in the 250 box challenge. Great effort on rotated boxes. You seem to have rotated the boxes and the hatching you used has a good visual effect. It looks as though you went over some of the lines many times, which you should watch out for - if you're going to do heavy outlining like that, make sure you are still drawing from the shoulder and ghosting the lines - don't be tempted to use your wrist drawing skills to add precise details on exercises like this.

    Next Steps:

    Good job! Move on to the 250 box challenge. Feel free to give some critiques to other people who have completed lesson 1.

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    4:40 PM, Wednesday September 2nd 2020

    Congratulations on finishing a long and difficult challenge!

    Feathering at the corners: You are overshooting and drawing through the corners of your boxes. It helps to plot a point where you visualize the lines will come together and then aim for it. You might just need to work on accuracy in ending your lines, using exercises such as ghosted lines or ghosted planes for practice.

    Line wobble: Again, it will help to have a small dot to aim for so you can ghost your lines and make a confident movement from your shoulder.

    Twisted boxes: Some of your boxes are coming out with a twisted shape. Some examples: 245, 242, 238, 230, 216 (Thank you for labeling your boxes!) I believe this is due to an issue with your starting Y shapes - some of your starting Ys include acute (or very close to acute) angles. Review Uncomfortable's video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlJ6rwj3PKg starting at the 5:00 mark, he begins talking about the angles in the Y construction. When drawing the starting Ys, it helps to start each of the three lines from the one central point to ensure that the 3 starting lines of the Y come together in one point.

    Inner corners: it is not a hard requirement of this challenge to have accuracy in the inner corner, but I think it would help your understanding of the 3D space to revisit some of your inner corners and think about where they should have been placed, and the planes of the boxes in relation to each other.

    You explored 3D space and tried a variety of boxes, so well done!

    Next Steps:

    Use some ghosted lines and planes exercises as warm ups to work on your accuracy, and move on to lesson 2.

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    4:11 PM, Wednesday September 2nd 2020

    Congratulations on finishing a long and difficult challenge!

    I notice that you are doing a good job of leaving it at one confident line, even if it's wrong, rather than go over it. The only time you should be going over lines is around the outside edge, using ghosted lines, to add line weight. Some of your added lines are not matching, and an exercise like superimposed lines will help you gain accuracy in that. I also notice some of your corners are feathering, meaning you are having trouble stopping at the goal points when putting down your lines. Ghosted lines as a warm up exercise can help you gain more accuracy in stopping at the end points.

    Overall I think you explored a variety of boxes and understood the purpose of the exercise.

    Next Steps:

    Move on to lesson 2. Use superimposed lines and ghosted lines as warm up exercises to work on your accuracy. Try leaving feedback on other students' homework.

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    3:59 PM, Wednesday September 2nd 2020

    Congratulations on finishing the lesson 1 homework!

    Lines: I am seeing some wobble and chicken scratch on your lines in the ghosted planes exercise and the rough perspective exercise. However, some of your lines in the ghosted lines exercise are quite nice. Perhaps you are getting too wrapped up in accuracy, causing you too slow down and add wobble - focus on drawing confidently from your shoulder, and focus on confident lines over accuracy at this point. Try doing warm ups with the ghosted plane exercise to work on this.

    Ellipses: On ellipses in planes, your ellipses are taking on a warped look as you focus too much on making the ellipse touch each side of the plane. While you should be trying to touch the sides of the plane, your focus at this point should be on a well formed ellipse, drawn confidently from the shoulder. If you are getting a warped ellipse that stretches to touch certain points, then you are drawing it too slowly and painstakingly. Your ellipses in the table and funnels are much nicer. Try bringing that same method when you draw the ellipses in the planes - I recommend that you do ellipses in planes as a warm up exercise.

    Boxes: I would recommend redoing the rotated boxes exercise, as I see you've missed some of the boxes and some are not rotating as they should be. It is a difficult one, but I think you would benefit from another pass at it. Your organic perspective exercise came out well and I think you are ready for the 250 box challenge.

    Next Steps:

    Move on to the 250 box challenge. Work on conquering line wobble with ghosted planes and ellipses in planes as a warm up exercise before your drawing sessions. Try giving feedback to other students on their lesson 1 homework.

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    3:46 PM, Wednesday September 2nd 2020

    Congratulations on finishing a long and difficult challenge!

    Even though sometimes the lines are off, you did a great job drawing just one confident straight line, without second guessing yourself, wobbling, or drawing over them. You have a good variety of different shapes and orientations of box, which shows that you explored the rotations and 3D space.

    I can see that you sometimes extended the lines in the wrong direction, but you also seem to have noticed as you did that and self corrected. Sometimes if a box comes out really off, it can be hard to determine which way the converging lines should come off, but a good general rule is to extend them away from the first Y that you drew when creating the box.

    Next Steps:

    Try giving more line weight to the outer edges of the boxes. It's not required for you to repost, but I think you should give it a try (do a couple of pages of your boxes) to see how that changes the looks of the boxes, and also to practice superimposing lines with accuracy to add line weight.

    Move on to lesson 2. Try giving critiques to other students.

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    3:30 PM, Wednesday September 2nd 2020

    Congratulations on finishing lesson 1! Overall, you did a great job on all the assigments.

    Lines: Your lines are looking very good to me, straight and confident. I think I notice some arcing in the ghosted lines on some of the longer lines, so go back to the lesson to see advice on how to correct arced lines. Make sure you are drawing using your shoulder for each motion, that tends to help with arcing.

    Ellipses: Your ellipses have a good shape but they're a little wild. Try working on the shoulder motion you're using to make them and don't forget to ghost before drawing each one. In the tables they should be touching on both ends, never floating in space. Some of the ellipses in funnels look like they've been drawn through more than 3 times, so try to limit your draw throughs to 2-3 times.

    Boxes: Great attempt at the organic perspective exercise. You have some issues but they will be addressed when you do the 250 box challenge. The only thing I would say you could work on for this exercise would be adding line weight to the boxes that are supposed to be closer to make them feel closer to the viewer and enhance the illusion of depth in the image.

    Next Steps:

    Move on to the 250 box challenge, making sure to draw from your shoulder. Ghosted lines and ghosted planes make great exercises to warm up before your drawing sessions. I would also recommend practicing your tables of ellipses, although you won't need to draw ellipses for the challenge - but it will prevent you from getting rusty on them and let you practice drawing with your shoulder.

    Now that you've gotten your lesson 1 feedback, try giving feedback to other students!

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    3:18 PM, Wednesday September 2nd 2020

    First of all, congratulations on getting through a very hard challenge! Even if sometimes your accuracy is off with placing some of the points or lines, your lines themselves are very confident, clear, and straight. You achieved great variety in the shape and orientation of your boxes.

    It's great that you realized you should focus on drawing from the shoulder and self corrected. I can see in the exercises where you started to have some problems with double lines - I assume this is from trying to go over the lines to add line weight to the outside edges. Review the necessary skills with some warmups using the superimposed lines and ghosted lines to work on accuracy in your lines while drawing from the shoulder.

    Overall, you did a really great job on this challenge!

    Next Steps:

    Move on to lesson 2, do some warm ups of superimposed lines and ghosted lines to improve accuracy with your shoulder, and try critiquing the work of other students!

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    3:04 PM, Wednesday September 2nd 2020

    Thank you for your response and critique! I will try to do some more critiques myself. I only recently got feedback for lesson 1 and I was hesitant to do critiques before I was officially "passed" on the lesson. Now I'll try to do some for lesson 1 and the boxes.

    6:56 PM, Friday August 28th 2020

    Thanks for your reply and feedback!

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