thankyoulife in the post "Inktober is Coming! So it's a good time to remind you guys that in order to make tools for Drawabox more accessible, we sell high quality 0.5mm fineliners in packs of 10 for just $16.50 USD (with free, fast shipping in the continental US)"
2019-09-21 04:50
How much is shipping to EU
thankyoulife in the post "Lesson 3: Applying Construction to Plants (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-08-18 12:51
Hi again
So I've decided to go with one construction and reassure I get this correct first like I did with previous lesson. I think I managed decently with this one, albeit the line work for the branch was not the best.
If you think this one's OK I'll move on.
thankyoulife in the post "Lesson 3: Applying Construction to Plants (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-22 06:55
Your sincere feedback is much appreciated. I think I'll take a pause now as I'm a bit exhausted. I've reached a plateau. Afterwards I'll give it a shot to redo the demos and hope it leads to new insights.
thankyoulife in the post "Lesson 3: Applying Construction to Plants (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-21 18:19
Long time ...
5 plant constructions
Small comments to each one
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the basic construction is four flow lines for the leaves. The bottom part seems more solid. I was unsure how to create the fold inward effect so I skipped the details for the remaining three leaves.
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This was a tough one with many interleaving leaves. I tackled it by the cylindrical trunk first, followed by flow line for each leaf. Then followed a loooong practice to achieve the 3D effect for them.
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Branch, enclosing circle shape for the leaf. Followed by the two curves inwards towards the branch.
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Tough one tackling the petals. Did the branches, followed by the cylindrical forms for the flower and then the flow lines. The 3D effect for the petals was difficult to achieve, spent a lot of time practicing that before finally reaching a drawing I was satisfied with.
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Different to the others, basic cylinder form for the pot, flow lines for every leaf basically, Much like the demo.
Optional read below :)
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My reflections on this exercise and little rant warning, should be taken as feedback from a humble student of yours.
In terms of learning how to draw, I dont think copying your drawing demonstrations is the best way to learn construction. At best one becomes good at copying someone elses image. Do you agree? Therefore I went completely against that and picked my own images, of which I have a small comment on too...
To choose an image with many constructional elements, is a burden to put on a student. I think a set of images should be pre-selected by the tutors as part of the exercise. If the purpose is to practice construction, let us focus only on that. I thought about this during the texture analysis as well. I spent time on browsing images and assessing if their appropriate or not, which Im sort of unable to do at this stage or maybe I could, but that would mean spending my thought process on something less trivial instead of drawing. Anyway it helped with your other comment on this, but I wanted to share my thoughts on this after all.
I had to forgo this image as the constructional elements were not easily distinguished. Whats with that branch fork, where are the leaves, are they enclosing the branch? i.e. is the branch its flow line or? Anyway I just left it at the end as I spent too much time understanding how to break it down.
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thankyoulife in the post "Lesson 3: Applying Construction to Plants (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-03 18:11
Cool.
That reference, I cannot understand *why* it's more complicated than this e.g. https://i.imgur.com/vCdsVMp.jpg . Care to explain please? I'd really like to understand as it seems I'm incapable of assessing the complexity of the references too :)
In my perspective that flower 'only' has three leaves curved away,
thankyoulife in the post "Lesson 3: Applying Construction to Plants (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-03 17:20
I was referring to the right downward curve only, it was still a natural movement for me as I'm left-handed. The reason I mentioned was I wanted to practice the spatial understanding of a leaf curving downwards. Hope that makes sense.
Regarding references, where the previous one too complicated, may I reuse any of them?
thankyoulife in the post "Lesson 3: Applying Construction to Plants (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-02 13:51
Arrows
Leaves
I systematically focused on one type of leaf for each page: simple plain, curve left, curve right, curve right downards (no I didn't rotate the page only), double curve sort of thing
Branches
Self-critique: noticed better connection for each segments towards later pages and realised my ghosting technique was impaired when holding the pen too far from the paper, causing the connecting mark to land way of and cause a tangent despite the ghosting movement. Instead, I tried to put down the pen along the runway and used the ghosting method from there in order to achieve a smoother transition, worked most of the times :). The ellipses are misaligned or poorly drawn too often to make a better impression.
thankyoulife in the post "Lesson 3: Applying Construction to Plants (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-06-28 21:54
Just read this "Also, remember that this homework must be drawn from reference." is this referring to the plants or all exercises?
thankyoulife in the post "Lesson 3: Applying Construction to Plants (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-06-25 20:02
Right, thanks for the feedback, that was overwhelming, yet useful to read. Before embarking on the next 15 pages, here are some of my thoughts that could be useful to understand your students thought process. Merely communicating through submissions will limit my growth. I hope this two-way feedback will help me develop.
I did follow the instructions, applying them is a different story though. In the process of writing and reading your feedback about arrows (see extra comment below) made me realise the whole window thing, I hope to apply it next to improve my drawing.
Anyway, is the process of learning just drawing until it clicks? With the leaves, I noticed myself getting caught up in the same question after the initial flow line was drawn: *at what angle can I draw the enclosing lines so the leaf appears realistic?" start 45 degrees will make the leaf look like XYZ, while crossing the path at this angle will appear as YYY. My leaves are a result of that experimentation, I could've drawn all the leaves the same as in the video, *just to make the instructor happy*, I don't work like that though :).
Furthermore, e.g. I can draw a box in perspective to make it look 3D, primarily because I learned the Y-shape-trick. Next, a leaf in perspective *could* potentially have this method for drawing it correctly, rather than believing in a lie and drawing enclosing lines without understanding how the line should be drawn on paper.
I seem stuck to believe that the method for drawing objects to appear 3D is dominant to actually believing in a lie.
Arrows: actually the farther ends are not much larger, the page is just flipped during upload. Rotating it 180 degrees gives the correct perspective. The zig-zagging I think I know what you mean, I'd have to experiment with this further.
Plants and construction:
moving from simple to complex in this exercise is to first draw the branch, followed by the flow line for each leaf, next the enclosing lines, I think I at least managed to accomplish this in 2,4,6,7,8. I mean that was my belief. The carnivorous plant is the only one I did the actual top/head followed by the branch.
Finally, thank you again for the effort you put into this and giving feedback.
thankyoulife in the post "Lesson 3: Applying Construction to Plants (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-06-25 12:31
Hello
Here's my submission for lesson 3. I just upgraded to next tier in Patreon too.
here are the refs I used for the plants.
thankyoulife in the post "Lesson 2: Contour Lines, Texture and Construction (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-06-06 08:44
Heres the last two pages
thankyoulife in the post "Lesson 2: Contour Lines, Texture and Construction (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-06-03 17:15
Thank you for your valuable comments, feels good to move forward making mistakes when I know there's feedback awaiting. Maybe that gap thing is good to put under 'Common Mistakes' section?
Here is a submission for two pages, I thought it would be wise to know if I'm moving in the right direction first before submitting another two?
thankyoulife in the post "Lesson 2: Contour Lines, Texture and Construction (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-06-01 08:34
Hello
The following is my submission for lesson 2.
thankyoulife in the post "Unfortunate Delays to the Drawabox Community Platform, and a short pause on Lesson 2-7 Critiques"
2019-12-28 07:53
My condolences to you and your family bro. Never would I expect anyone to put aside family in times like these . Please take time to focus as much as you need on the situation youre in and the community will await and understand your situation quite well. Peace