svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-08-14 13:02
No, that doesn't fall under jurisdiction of critiques here, but you can post them on the general subreddit or the discord server.
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-08-13 14:19
Good job. Your line work is better, your boxes are stronger, and your line weight is beginning to improve. Watch out for those dramatic camera angles like your top most box - they aren't as common in the real world. You are now officially finished with the 250 box challenge and free to move on to lesson 2. Congratulations!
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-08-08 15:04
No worries! The important part is you caught your mistake early and proceeded to correct it, that's great to hear!
Your line quality is great throughout this challenge, and while there could be some improvement on the hatching for the most part I can tell you didn't lose your lesson 1 habits we strive to build.
You have made great strides in your grasp of three dimensional form and perspective throughout the challenge so that is great to see. You are still having some trouble nailing down those back/hidden lines to be in perspective, which is very common for students and that is why uncomfortable made this infographic to help students sort it out. I would like you to read this and take in all of the information, but the short story of it is that students often look at boxes in sets of two parallel lines that make up a plane, often leading to two points of convergence. Instead, we must view all of the parallel lines of a box (four) as a single unit, because all parallel lines go towards a common VP. As the VP moves, the angle between these boxes move. For example, as the vanishing point moves very far away, the lines become more and more parallel looking, meaning the angle between them gets smaller and smaller. Anywho, read that over and keep it tucked in your brain space for the future. Other than that my only other critique is regarding your line weight. You have very good consistent lines, but to bring them up to the next level you need some variation and strategic placement of line weight. Uncofortable goes over that in this section so take a look and keep that information tucked away as well. You've done a good job varying your boxes proportions and orientations, and while I would have liked to see some larger boxes from you, you've done well so I won't ask any more boxes from you. You are now finished with the 250 box challenge. Congratulations! Your next step is to move on to lesson 2. Keep up the good work and we will see you then.
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-08-08 14:47
No worries, we have critiqued much more wonky photo orders for the challenge, but thanks for the heads up!
Ok, so there is a lot to address in your submission so let's get started. First of all, congratulations on making it to the finish line; it's a difficult challenge and students should always feel good about finishing. You've made some good strides in your work through the challenge, but there are also still some problem areas to address. Starting with your growth - your sense of space and perspective definitely improved through the challenge, especially with the convergences of your hidden lines. To improve even more on the back line convergences, uncomfortable made this infographic for students after the challenge (so they have more context and had time to work through problems as best as they can) . Please give it a read through, but long story short is that all 4 parallel lines of a set are related to one another with respect to their vanishing point. As the VP changes, the angle between all these lines change.
Moving on, I feel that you could have drawn your boxes much larger, as they are all fairly small and timid. Speaking of timid, your line work is still very hesitant and lacks the confidence that ghosting and drawing from the shoulder provide. On a positive note, you did a good job drawing boxes in a lot of different configuration and didn't settle into a "comfort zone box". Overall, you've made some good progress, but before I mark this challenge as complete I am going to ask you to do one additional page of boxes, with some stipulations.
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Make sure to ghost every line and use your shoulder, bigger lines are better for this which leads into the second point. Also - no re-do lines like you have done in your submission. Make sure to prepare each line and if it goes off kilter, we must all live with our results. Re-do lines only draw more attention to mistakes.
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The page should have 5 (roughly) equally sized boxes, no more no less.
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Read through this section on line weight again here and do your best to apply what uncomfortable goes through.
Once you have completed your page submit them as a reply to this comment and we will go from there. Keep up the hard work and I will see you soon.
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-08-04 13:55
Hey there, good job completing the 250 boxes! You have made some good improvement here, but there are a few things I want to point out to help you continue to progress. First of all, you have drawn all of your boxes extremely small. With any "real" drawing, your subjects most likely won't be at this thumbnail scale and so drawing your boxes this tiny isn't very helpful. Additionally, when we draw larger we are giving our brains more room to work through these spatial puzzles that drawing presents to us. I see that you are improving with your back line convergences, but to help continue that uncomfortable made this infographic for students upon completion of the challenge. The distilled point of it is that all 4 parallel lines are related to one another with respect to the vanishing point and as the vp changes, the angles between all four lines change. For the most part your line weight is pretty good, but I'm seeing some boxes, 247 for instance, that aren't quite up to snuff. Remember that line weight should be most prominent around the silhouette and lightest for the internal lines, which is shown and explained more here. There isn't much more to say for your boxes. I want to reiterate on last time to draw larger in the future as a general rule of thumb for drawing larger is always better (unless you are doing thumbnails which have a distinct time and purpose). Good job completing the challenge and we will see you after you complete lesson 2.
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-08-02 14:26
The first thing I want to mention is that you are rushing. Just completing boxes is not how we improve, but rather a mindful application of things we learn from line extensions and that infographic I linked you. In the future, please try to take more time when doing the lessons, as hurrying will only hurt you. The other point I want to bring up is that almost all of your boxes are virtually isometric instead of having noticeable convergence, so in the future try to work on more boxes that converge more apparently. You have done the extra work asked of you, and showed some improvement so I will be marking this as complete. Keep these things in mind as you continue to progress and we will see you after you complete lesson 2
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-08-02 00:54
Hey there, good job finishing up the box challenge. I can tell that you've put in a lot of hard work here, not limited to putting in all of your check lines which makes us happy and indicates you were following directions. While there was a lot of hard work here, there is also quite a bit of room left to improve. Your lines, while not the worse, are quite wobbly and hesitant which is definitely not what we want. You have done a good job of making your boxes bigger as you progress which gives your brain more room to think through these puzzles, and that should provide you with adequate room to really use your shoulder to get confident marks. Remember the points taught in lesson 1 and always try to warm up before you start any work that will be submitted. You are correct in your evaluation that the marks in the back of your boxes are throwing off your convergences, but those aren't the only ones. There are a lot of times where you end up having distortion stem from all of your lines and not just the internal ones. Before marking your boxes as complete I want you to read through these notes that uncomfortable has put together about how all of the parallel lines of a box are related to each other with respect to the vanishing point. A lot of students in the beginning tend to view the parallel lines in pairs that make up a single plane instead of viewing them all as the ensemble they are. After reading through these notes please draw 20 more boxes and submit them as a reply to this comment. After that, I will go over them with you and we will move on from there. Please don't be discouraged, as you put in a lot of hard work and I can see that, I just want to see a little more out of you with some guidance this time and a friendly reminder to ghost your lines and use your shoulder. You do not need to wait for the 2 week cool down period as this isn't a new submission. See you when you finish those 20 boxes!
svendogee in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-28 05:17
The line quality looks fine to me!
svendogee in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-27 03:15
Hey there. So you have done a good job of really squeezing every inch of space out of your pages for mileage, and that is great! Your super imposed lines are confident and smooth, but are showing a lot of fraying which indicates that yo might need to slow down a tad (or even speed up, since everyone is different), so just keep experimenting with that in your warm ups to find out what works best for you. For your ghosted lines you have done a good job using your shoulder and ghosting, but you have a lot of wobble at the end or overshoot. What I like to do is instead of stopping the motion of the pen and fighting against the inertia is to just lift the pen up and continue the motion. Not only is it easier than fighting muscle memory you built up while ghosting, but it gives the lines a nice taper which is more visually interesting. Try it out, you might like it.
Moving on to your ellipses, you are giving them a good shape; no flat spots, no asymmetry or bulges, but your accuracy could use some work. With the planes you are missing the target midpoints of the sides, and when you draw through them there is a lot of variance. Just continue to practice with ghosting and using your shoulder and they'll tighten up. Your funnels exercise is much of the same - very, very nice ellipses, but not quite hitting the target sides of the funnels in a lot of them. Perhaps you need to slow down a little? I'm not sure but like I said, keep practicing and you'll get it!
Moving on to your rough perspective boxes the first thing that jumps out to me are your lines and how they all overshoot. Remember to always apply the ghosting method and draw a confident stroke with your shoulder trying your best to hit your marks. You have done a good job keeping your boxes' horizontal lines parallel to the horizon and verticals perpendicular, and you applied your perspective checking correctly, so next time you do an exercise like this try to really tighten up those lines.
Good job completing the rotated box challenge. While your work doesn't look exactly like the example, it is actually quite a strong submission. First of all, you really pushed that rotation, which is the main goal as this is the rotated box challenge, so good work there! You also stuck to your own system you made as you drew your boxes, resulting in the corner boxes being nearly invisible. This is good though because you were consistent and didn't try to adjust things just to match the example! You could have afforded to tighten up your lines a little more, same as your rough perspective exercise, but overall you did a good job with this. One more thing is you could have benefited to tighten up your boxes to better utilize the adjacent lines for perspective guides, as explained here. Overall, really good job here.
Finally let's look at your organic perspective exercise. While there still is some overshooting going on here, you have reigned it in quite a bit so keep it up. You do a good job composing your scenes with depth in mind, really getting in there and not being afraid to overlap you boxes. To further improve your overlapping selling depth, you can start to play with line weight; heavier lines denote one form in front of another. You also do a good job scaling your boxes to further sell the illusion of depth on a two dimensional page.
With this your lesson 1 is complete and uncomfortable will be by to give you your flair. From here, your next step is the 250 box challenge. Make sure to take your time and be mindful of lines - I don't want to see all this overshooting next time. Remember to also take 50% of your time to draw for fun and to take advantage of all of the resources uncomfortable made for this challenge. Keep up the good work and we will see you on the other side of 250!
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-25 00:55
Hey there. You have submitted a nice set of boxes here. You have shown a lot of growth in your boxes, perspective and even overall line quality. As you go through the 250 boxes your convergences show steady improvement, but you still seem to have some trouble with the back line fairly often. Here in this infogrphic uncomfortable made, he explains how we need to look at all four parallel lines in a single ensemble instead of the more common way of viewing them in pairs the make up a single plane. The four parallel lines are all related to each other via the internal angles in relation to their respective vanishing point. That is, as the vanishing point moves further away, the angles decrease and the four lines become more and more "truly parallel." Aside from this struggle, I am pleased with your work. You have done a good job drawing your boxes in a variety of scales, orientations, and lenses, and this exploration will only lead to further growth. If I were to find other things to nit pick on, I would say you could have taken a little more care on the hatching, as it seems you could have used more ghosting, but to your credit the lines look smooth and confident and drawn with your shoulder! I see you have attempted some line weight around the silhouettes and you've done a good job for the most part keeping the weight subtle, "whispering to the viewer's subconscious instead of screaming," as uncomfortable puts it. Overall, you've done a good job on this challenge both in drawing the boxes but also just following the directions of applying the check lines correctly. So with this you have completed the 250 box challenge. Your next step is to move on to lesson 2, so keep up the good work.
svendogee in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-23 02:39
Hello there, I am one of the TAs and I'll be going over your submission today.
Your lines are coming along nicely. You are developing a solid, confident flow to them and you are showing that you are successfully applying the ghosting method and drawing with your shoulder.
Moving on to your ellipses, they are also coming along very nicely. Your ellipses are smooth and continuous with very few occurrences of flat parts or signs of stuttering/slowing down. You are taking good care to try and hit the necessary points in your ellipses in planes exercise and you are drawing through your ellipses appropriately. Continue to practice tightening up your "draw throughs" and you will continue to improve your already strong ellipses. With your funnels you do a great job aligning the ellipses' minor axes to the funnel's central axis with only a few skewed ones, and overall you are doing a really nice job with everything so far.
Your rough perspective box exercise continue to be the solid caliber you have produced up until now. Your lines are confident and well prepared before executing, and your boxes are positioned with respect to the horizon correctly; that being the horizontal lines parallel to the horizon and your verticals perpendicular. With practice your converging lines will continue to become more accurate, and for practicing this I suggest more ghosting towards the vanishing point (whether it is on the page or in most occasions off the page).
Good job completing the rotated box exercise. While our main priority for this exercise is that a student just complete the exercise so they are introduced to new types of spatial problems and solutions, you have certainly done a great job with it! There are however some areas that I can point out where you could improve, such as more leveraging of line weight to further clarify the forms and to include hatching on the boxes' side planes. Not only does this help the viewer decipher what is going on easier, it is great mileage for using the shoulder on shorter lines. Overall though you have done a really good job with this; your boxes are packed neatly together, your lines continue to be ghosted and confident, and you successfully rotated your forms.
Finally let's look at your organic perspective exercises. For the first time in this lesson I am starting to see some signs of rushing. While the overall quality is still high, you have set the bar high for yourself from your work thus far so little things start to stand out more. You start to overshoot and undershoot lines as well as having some curves happening; things that were not present in your work up to this point. I am going to assume this is because you were nearing the end of the lesson and people tend to start to speed up due to the excitement of finishing. Other than that, your boxes are coming along. You are showing the beginnings of a solid grasp of 3d space and perspective, but still have some issues with near planes being smaller than far planes. Your compositions are are good and you utilize overlapping forms and scaling boxes to really sell the illusion of three dimensional space on a two dimensional page.
And with that your lesson 1 is complete. You have done a great job and your next step is to move on to the 250 box challenge. Be sure to take your time and keep up the good work with ghosting and using your shoulder, and remember to take breaks to draw for fun so you avoid burning out or anything of the sort. Keep up the good work.
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-21 23:07
Hey there. First of all I want to say that you are being entirely too hard on yourself, as this is a very solid set of boxes you have submitted! You had a strong start, showed growth throughout and ended even stronger. Your line quality and sense of perspective is really nice, and you appropriately applied your check lines to your boxes, which is what we like to see!
It wouldn't be a proper critique to find something to point out for you to work on, although with this submission it isn't as easy as some. I would like to point out that many of your boxes are very similar in terms of size/scale, convergence, and orientation. It would have been nice if you attempted to try some 2 point perspective boxes, or maybe some more extreme convergences for practice sake. In reality, the convergence rate/lens you used on these boxes is very good and what you would want to use most of the time, so it's not really even a huge deal, just something for me to point out. In terms of orientations though, you do seem to have a few comfort zones that you stick with, and more importantly than varying convergences is to be able to rotate boxes (and more complex) forms arbitrarily in space.
In respect to your entire submission of boxes, your hidden lines maintain consistent perspective pretty well, with very few wild, off kilter lines. Regardless, we like to share this infographic that uncomfortable made that illustrates how the 4 parallel lines all are related to one another with respect to the vanishing point and how their angles between change when the VP moves. You have a good handle on that already, but here it is for the sake of being thorough. You are now finished with the 250 box challenge and your next step is lesson 2. Overall you have done a great job and keep up the good work.
svendogee in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-19 23:29
Hey there, I'm one of the new TAs and I'll be going over your work today.
Your super imposed lines are off to a good start, as are your ghosted lines. They are mostly smooth, confident, and drawn with the shoulder. There are a few hiccups here and there with wobbles but overall you seem to be applying the ghosting method and using your shoulder effectively.
Your ellipses are developing nicely throughout these exercises. You are doing a good job getting the overall shape and feel of an ellipse with a continuously curving line and minimal flat spots (ideally none). When you are drawing through on your second pass there is quite a bit of variance and wobble, so try to really make sure you are ghosting until the muscle memory is seated, then continue the motion but move the pen to make contact with the paper. With your funnel exercises your ellipses are pretty good, but remember that the minor axis of the ellipse should align to the funnel's central axis. Aligning your ellipses to a desired angle is a valuable skill, so it's good to get started practicing it early on in your development.
Moving on to your rough perspective boxes, your lines continue to be strong, with the exception of a few misguided lines. Additionally, you do a good job orienting your boxes correctly with respect to the horizon - horizontals parallel and verticals perpendicular. Your convergences aren't on the money yet but that will come in time with lots of practice.
First and foremost, great job completing the rotated box exercise. Our top priority with students is just for them to complete it so they can be introduced to new types of spatial problems and strategies to solve them, a perfect execution is far and away a secondary concern. On the positives: while the completed product doesn't look exactly like the sphere uncomfortable produces, you do a great job attempting to rotate your boxes. In some cases you skew them more than rotate them (like this) but overall the correct mindset is starting to show. I do see that you did not pack your boxes as tightly as you could have like this. Read through that again now that you have completed the exercise for context, and see how utilizing adjacent edges can really help decipher perspective when we start juggling lots of individual vanishing points. Overall good job with this, although I would have liked to see you do some hatching for visual clarity as well as more line practice.
Finally let's look at your organic perspective exercises. Your boxes and sense of space are heading in the right direction and with some practice you'll really be improving. While you do a good job scaling your boxes to make them appear to recede into space, you could have also utilized more overlapping to continue to sell the illusion of depth, like in this example. Like I said, your sense of space is coming along and I see improvement in your perspective even throughout just this exercise. That being said there is still room for improvement, as with us all and we have plenty of time to practice that in the 250 box challenge. I am now marking your lesson 1 as complete, good job. Before jumping in to your boxes make sure to go through the material provided and remember to take your time, both during the drawing, and by taking breaks to draw for fun. Keep up the good work.
svendogee in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-18 01:21
Hey there. First of all I want to say you've done a lot of good work here, not only in terms of value, but it is clear you have taken your time and took all of the work very seriously.
You've got a ton of good mileage in with all of your superimposed lines already. I see some slight wobble, but not much that would indicate you aren't primarily relying on your shoulder. The same goes with your ghosted lines. As far as overshooting goes, what I like to do is instead of trying to stop at a point and fight inertia+muscle memory I instead just lift my pen. It has the added bonus of adding a nice taper to the line which is a little more interesting than uniform lines.
For your ellipses you mention it takes a few go around to get in a groove, so to speak. For this I would just recommend more ghosting before execution and when you finally do execute, just continue with the ghosted motion without skipping a beat. They are already off to a very nice start and I think mileage is the biggest thing you're missing here and they will continue to improve with more practice. Your funnel exercise is also nicely done, but if I were to have to nit pick, there are some ellipses that have minor axes that aren't aligned to the funnel axis. Ellipse alignment is very important in constructional drawing, as a poorly oriented ellipse can kill a lot of the illusion that we are working to build up, so keep that in mind.
With your rough perspective boxes, things start to get a little shaky. This happens a lot with students and I think it's because it's the first "real " thing you are tasked to draw. Just remember to stick with the tried and true ghosting and drawing with the shoulder and let muscle memory take care of the rest. Your boxes are oriented correctly with respect to the horizon - horizontal lines parallel to it and verticals perpendicular, so good job there. On the downside, I'm seeing a lot of re-do lines which is a big no no. Drawing over a line or trying again just draws more attention to our mistakes. Instead we must work on practicing and preparing more and then living with the result we get. It sounds hard/harsh at first, but it gets better.
Good job on completing the rotated boxes, as I know that can be a big hurdle for a lot of students. As this exercise's main goal is to introduce you to new types of spatial problems and how to solve them, we care less about producing a nice picture and wayyyy more about just completing it and gaining knowledge of how much there is to learn. My first suggestion is to draw much larger, as that gives our brains more room to solve these spatial puzzles and more room for us to use our shoulder to get those clean, strong lines. Additionally, you could have afforded to pack your boxes closer together so you could use adjacent lines to aid in perspective. It's a nifty strategy so make sure to go back and read that section over and really digest it now that you've completed this attempt and have more context. Finally, your boxes weren't rotated as much as just translated and skewed, similar to this example. You can refresh your memory on how rotation works in relation to moving our vanishing points here. I know this is a lot to take in, but don't lose heart, you've given it really great attempt, and like I said in my opening, that is really the only thing we ask from students at this stage.
Finally let's look at your organic perspective. The hardest thing about this critique is that you've done a really good job of seeing a lot of your major shortcomings that I would talk about which leaves me searching for ways to give you further insight. You are right about your boxes being wonky, but I am more focused on the line quality right now. Like I said in your rough perspective exercise, make sure to ghost your lines and carefully prepare each one before execution. You do a nice job scaling your boxes to make them recede in space to aid in the illusion of 3d space on the page so good job there! And with that your lesson 1 is complete! From here your next step is the 250 box challenge. Make sure you take advantage of all of the great resources uncomfortable has provided, and continue to approach the work as you did in lesson 1 with the same care and patience. Take breaks for fun to avoid burn out and we will see you when you finish. Keep up the good work!
svendogee in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-16 23:58
Hey there, Sven here to do your critique today so let's get started.
So looking at your super imposed lines I'm seeing a lot of fraying and wobbling. To resolve the wobbling try to find a better (usually faster) speed to execute your lines as well as using the shoulder. For the fraying, this will come with time and mileage so we don't worry about this too much at this stage. For your ghosted lines, your medium length lines are strong for the most part, with a few exceptions. I feel that these few lines that are kind of anomalies are due to not using the ghosting method and/or rushing through. Just make sure to give each line the attention and care it deserves.
This sentiment continues onto your ellipses. While there are some definite glimmers of potential and success, for the most part they feel rushed and not given attention. In your ellipses in planes there doesn't seem to be much effort to hit the mid points of each side (addressed here) nor is there much consistency in drawing through your ellipses. I know ellipses are difficult, and doing them from the shoulder more so, but we must fight our urges to rush and try to just finish, as the value isn't in finishing an exercise at is a chance to learn and practice.
With your rough perspective you are hitting the major points: attempting to make lines go to the vanishing point, checking them correctly, and (mostly) keeping your horizontals parallel to the horizon and your verticals perpendicular. Where you fell short is the lines themselves. There are a lot of wobbly lines and overshoots, so once again, remember to ghost and prepare each line and execute with the shoulder.
Your rotated box exercise is actually your strongest offering of all of the exercises. Your lines are much more precise, and although there are still wobbles, what really stands out to me was your hatching. Your hatch lines, which most students tend to rush because they view them as secondary or less important, are parallel and consistently spaced, indicating an attention to detail that I want you to have with every line no matter how short or long. You could have afforded to rotate your boxes more, as the vanishing points didn't really translate along the axes much (as indicated by your converging lines being parallel instead of the angles changing, as illustrated here. Do not fret though, as the main priority of this exercise is to show students new kinds of spatial problems and we don't expect a perfect execution, just an attempt which you have done. Overall you should be proud of this work and strive to achieve this quality as your baseline for now.
Finally let's look at your organic perspective. Your lines here are heading in the right direction with fewer wobbly lines, so good job there. Your perspective itself is still in its early stages, which is fine as that's why we have the 250 box challenge. Compositionally, you could have afforded to have more large boxes in the foreground and scale your boxes/make them smaller to give the illusion of depth and 3d space on a 2d page. It seems you have taken your time more on this exercise which honestly at this stage is what I want to see the most. Which brings me to my final point. Before I mark this lesson as complete, I am assigning you one page of ghosted lines and one page of ellipse tables. I want you to take your time on these and make sure you are ghosting enough and using your shoulder. The goal here isn't perfection or to have you grind more because you fell short of some metric (you didn't fall short of anything!), but rather to show us that you are taking your time to really ingest this information and begin to learn the physical mechanics of drawing. Once you have completed these two pages submit them as a comment in response to this one and I will take a look and we can go from there.
svendogee in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-13 14:18
Hi there, I'm one of the TAs and I'll be going over your work today.
Your line work exercises start off strong. I would have liked to see a few more lines crammed onto the pages for a little more mileage, but that's alright since you'll be doing these in warmups for basically the rest of your drawing tenure. Your ghosted lines are smooth, but showing some wobble and course corrections, which indicates to me you are using your shoulder but should try and speed up a little and trust your ghosting to produce a confident line. If you miss the mark that's ok, with practice accuracy improves.
You did a ton of ellipses which is great since these are way harder than lines and we could all use more ellipse practice. You are doing a good job of reinforcing them an appropriate amount without getting too heavy, but there are still a lot of places with flat spots or wobbles. To remedy this, try to draw faster and (as always) remember to use the ghosting method with your shoulder to produce confident, smooth marks. On the funnel exercise you get a little heavy with the drawing through, but you keep your minor axes all aligned with the funnel central ellipse, so just keep on practicing your ghosting and shoulder drawing.
By the time you get to the rough perspective exercise your lines are improving quite a bit. I see you are starting to experiment with line weight which is good, but remember the heaviest lines are saved for the perimeter of the box and internal lines should be lighter (which is explained in the 250 box challenge here.) Your perspective is developing, and you do a good job orienting the boxes correctly relative to the horizon, so not much else to say here on this exercise except to ding you on the lines that are wobbly, which will improve with time and practice.
Your rotated box is quite a strong submission. Your lines are confident, your boxes are rotated, and most of the perspective is correct. The far corner boxes are the only ones that jump out to me that they aren't rotated. You can tell because the outer lines corresponding to the top back edges are parallel to their neighboring boxes equivalent lines. This is the trickiest spot to rotate a box since there are no apparent patterns for the vanishing points to move, but with time it will become a lot more clear. This exercise is first and foremost about exposing students to new spatial problems and solutions, and that has been accomplished here in addition to your submission. The only other thing I am noticing is that in a few places you are drawing what appear to be a re-do line after the first attempt doesn't go as planned. We need to just ghost and trust the process and live with the results because drawing more lines just brings more attention to any mistakes.
Finally let's look at your organic perspective exercise. Frankly, I am very pleased with these. These are some really nice and compelling compositions and you are doing a great job of selling depth with both scaling your boxes as well as overlapping them. You still have a few places where you are drawing those re-do lines but overall your lines here are strong as well. Your perspective is definitely on the right track and there are some really nice boxes in here, but still some that are skewed or diverging. Overall you have done a great job on this lesson and I will be marking it as complete. Your next stop will be the 250 box challenge. Make sure to read and watch all the resources so you can get the most out of the challenge and take your time. Additionally, make sure you draw for fun to avoid burnout. Once again, great job and we will see you after your 250 boxes.
svendogee in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-12 04:00
TA Sven here to do your critique today, so let's get started.
Your super imposed lines start off pretty wild, but you start to reign them in on the second page. Understandably, your curved lines are a little more erratic, but that's just the nature of learning to draw with our shoulder and will improve in time. Overall I think you could start experimenting with different speeds to try and find a sweet spot to really tighten up these super imposed lines as it is an exercise in line weight, and when applying line weight to a drawing we don't want wild double and triple lines.
In your ghosted lines I'm glad to see you challenging yourself with longer lines as these are really the test to see if we are applying the ghosting methods and using our shoulder. Conversely to your super imposed lines where I think you could afford to slow down a touch, I feel like in these ghosted lines you could afford to speed up a little as your are showing quite a bit of wobble and concern with hitting the end point rather than focusing on creating muscle memory with ghosting and executing a smooth, confident line. Keep practicing these methods and trust that accuracy will improve with time. In your planes, your line quality took a dramatic uptick, as they are smooth and confident for the most part and when you miss the mark you aren't showing any conscious concern with correcting it.
Moving on to your ellipses, you are doing well reinforcing them as instructed. Continue to practice ghosting these with your shoulder as they are showing a heavy degree of wobble and variance, but that is to be expected and nothing to fret over. Also be sure to be mindful that an ellipse will have neither a pointy end nor a blunt end, so when we are drawing these shapes it sometimes takes a conscious effort to try and keep a continuous smoothness to them as we go around. There are a lot of mechanics in the arm at play here so just keep practicing. Your funnels are going well in the right direction as you are keeping your minor axes aligned to the central axis of the funnel. They are still pretty spread in the reinforcement but that will improve with more ghosting and confident execution (and of course, practice!).
You have done a lot of work on these rough perspective boxes, which makes me happy! It's clear you are not rushing through these exercises and giving them each the focus and time they deserve. You've done well applying the instructions of extending your lines to check convergence, as well as keeping your boxes fairly well oriented, with the horizontal lines parallel to the horizon and the verticals perpendicular. I do see a breakdown of line confidence here, as is common as these boxes are the first "real thing" we draw in lesson 1 so there are bound to be some nerves from time to time. Just remember to keep applying the ghosting method with the shoulder.
Your rotated box is quite nice. The boxes living on the 2 axes are rotated well and not skewed, and your lines are more confident here. The diagonal boxes start to have some perspective errors and some of that could have been mitigated by keeping your boxes packed tighter together to utilize adjacent edges as explained here. You did a good job pushing through that, and as that is our first priority for students on this lesson, you have completed the main objective. That is, to be introduced to new types of spatial problems and different strategies to solve these problems.
Finally let's look at your organic boxes. You really have continued doing great with just absolutely packing your pages with practice, and giving each line the care it deserves. Your compositions are engaging (if not a little similar throughout), and you do an excellent job of conveying depth through scaling and overlapping. You have quite a bit of diverging perspective (near plane smaller than far plane), but that will get fixed right up in the 250 box challenge.
Overall you've done a great job putting in the work and following the directions in this lesson. I am happy to mark it complete and send you off to the 250 boxes. Make sure to take advantage of all of the great resources uncomfortable has made for the challenge, and remember to adhere to the 50% draw for fun rule to avoid burn out and so you don't mindlessly go through the motions of the boxes. Good job and we will see you next time.
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-07-01 01:23
Hey there, good job finishing the challenge. Leaving it all on the court is the way to go in my book!
You made some great strides in quality throughout this challenge! You have applied your check lines correctly, and throughout the challenge your perspective tightens up as a consequence of such. You do a good job with varying your boxes orientation and perspectives, and your line quality is pretty good. One point of line quality I do want to bring to your attention is the hatching. While the hatching isn't technically part of the box, it is still part of the overall drawing helping to communicate the near plane to the viewer. In a lot of your boxes your hatching is sloppy, feeling a little rushed compared to the boxes themselves. When hatching remember to apply ghosting and use the shoulder and draw them with the same care as any other lines in your drawing. Other than that there a few places where when you are reinforcing the silhouette the lines get a tad sloppy but overall your lines are good.
Looking at a few of your arrows where you think the vertices should be nudged was really helpful as an instructor to give you further feedback. It is showing that you are still not quite looking at all the lines in unison. Take box 242, if you move that vertex down as you indicate with the arrow, to adjust (what I think you were intending) the blue and green lines, this would throw off your purple convergences more. Now I'm not 100% sure but from looking at it I think technically to "fix" that box the vertex in question should be moved upward and outward, but this is kind of getting into the weeds. When I say to look at all the lines in unison, think about the 4 parallel lines in each direction and how they relate to one another with respect to the location of their vanishing point. As the VP changes location, the angles between them change. Uncomfortable has made this infographic to further explain the concept. Overall I am quite pleased with your work and you are free to move on to lesson 2. Uncomfortable will be by to verify and give you your flair. Keep up the good work!
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-06-27 22:00
It's actually not on the website. We like to wait until after the box challenge to show it to students. It's best to let you guys grapple with the problems for a while to maximize learning.
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-06-27 14:45
Hi there, good job finishing the 250 boxes. Throughout this exercise you have shown a lot of good improvement. First off, I am happy to see that you quit cramping your pages early on and gave each box the room it needed to fully understand what was going on. Your perspective throughout is definitely getting better, but I still want to drop this infographic that uncomfortable has produced. The main takeaway lesson from this is to think about all 4 parallel lines as a set instead of the usual first instinct students have which is to look at parallel lines that make up a single plane. All of the parallel lines are related to a vanishing point which has a direct impact on the angle between these four lines. Give it a read a few times and digest it and next time you go to draw some boxes keep this in mind. The other point I want to bring up is your line quality. It is definitely not bad but it still has quite a bit of wobble that we would like to get rid of. This appears to be mainly in your silhouettes which I assume is you adding line weight, which is correct. Remember that when adding line weight it is the same as the super imposed line exercise. You are not tracing a line, but rather drawing a new one right one top, meaning we still need to ghost and draw confidently with our shoulder. Your hatching is a little wobbly as well so once again remember to ghost and draw with your shoulder and things will be better.
Overall you did a good job; you followed directions correctly with your check lines (they are a little hard to see but I assume that's scanner setting issues) and you showed steady improvement. Unfortunately there is no "perfect method" for anything, especially drawing boxes and you will have to find which way is most comfortable for you. Depending on the box perspective and what it will be used for I have a few different ways to draw them that I've found through trial and error.
With this your box challenge is complete and you are ready to move on to lesson 2. Keep up the good work.
svendogee in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-06-26 03:09
Hey there, I'm one of uncomfortable's TAs and I'll be going over your lesson today.
I am glad that you pushed through and did it even when you didn't feel like it. It's this resilience and willingness to toss aside feelings that leads to growth.
Your lines are stronger than you give yourself credit for. Your super imposed lines are tight and mostly confident, as are your ghosted lines. In both I see wobbles near the end points which means you need to ghost more and trust that muscle memory. Flow/smoothness > accuracy at this stage in your development. What I like to do is instead of stopping the motion of the line, I just lift my pen off so I don't have to fight the inertia and muscle memory I built up with ghosting.
Ellipses are hard. I think everyone can agree on this. Yes, you struggled, but you persevered and tried to follow the directions, which is what we look for in lesson 1. At this point just continue to practice the ghosting method and using your shoulders for all marks, including ellipses. I recommend trying to go a little faster to eliminate the wobbles and yield a smoother more confident ellipse. I can already see the progress with your funnels exercises and you do a good job keeping the minor axes aligned to the central axis of the funnel.
With your rough perspective I see you tensed up a lot. Remember to ghost and plan every line and if some miss the mark, it's just more room for improvement and practice. You do a good job orienting your horizontal lines parallel to the horizon and your verticals perpendicular. While your converging lines miss the VP a lot that is normal and with more practice in drawing towards a desired point your accuracy will improve.
Good job on completing the rotated box exercise! First and foremost our goal for students is to complete this exercise and be exposed to new types of spatial problems and ways to solve them. A nice drawing is a far and away secondary concern. While you definitely try to rotate your boxes, you more just translated them over and shrank them, as indicated by the converging lines all being mostly parallel. Remember, to rotate a box the vanishing points translate along the horizon as seen here. Additionally, you could have afforded to keep your boxes closer together to utilize adjacent lines in guiding your perspective, explained here.
Finally let's take a look at your organic perspective. You are showing starting signs of perspective with attempts to get your lines to converge, and while there are some divergences and perspective errors, that is nothing the 250 box challenge won't clear up. You also do a good job conveying the illusion of depth on your page by scaling your boxes, and to sell the illusion even more in the future you can play with more overlapping boxes and very large boxes in the immediate foreground.
And with that you are finished with lesson 1. Moving forward I want to urge you not to be so self critical. Usually when students are hyper critical of themselves it's under the guise of being "realistic" and "self-motivating" but in reality students are just that, students. They don't know what they should be looking for at each stage of their development and it's why it's so important to have outside evaluations. Self evaluation is great, but don't plan your own funeral from it :P
You are now free to start the 250 box challenge. Please make use of the very helpful resources provided by uncomfortable and remember to take breaks to draw for fun to avoid burning out. Keep up the good work and we will see you on the other side of 250.
svendogee in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-06-24 14:49
Hello there, I'm one of uncomfortable's TAs and I'll be going over your work today.
As you progress through your super imposed lines they become more confident and smoother, indicating a growing understanding of the mechanics of drawing with the shoulder. This is good and as you continue to practice it will only improve more. Your curvy lines show a little more variance which is understandable as drawing curved lines with the shoulder takes even more practice, so once again just keep practicing these in warm ups for even better draftsmanship. Your ghosted lines are somewhat more wobbly and always stopping at the end point, indicating to me that you are more focused on hitting the end mark than producing a confident line. For now just trust the process of ghosting and using your shoulder and producing a clean smooth stroke and the accuracy will come in time. You are exhibiting this confidence more in your planes as you have lines that clearly miss the mark some but are straight and confident. Of course accuracy is important, but these are all things that must be held in balance and trained up, and as a new student we strive for flow and confidence first, then we go for accuracy. So just keep these things in mind and you will continue to improve in both confidence and accuracy.
On the flip side, your ellipses are looking pretty confident, and I would be inclined to say you might even want to try to slow down just a tad to get things tighter as you are drawing through your ellipses. Your funnels exercise is a little more off the mark, most likely because there are several constraints you are trying to balance with the bounds of the funnel as well as alignment of the minor axes. My suggestion is to draw larger so you have more room to practice and, frankly, drawing ellipses a little bigger is easier, in my opinion.
Your rough perspective is off to a good start. Your perspective is zoned in pretty well and I like to see you are planning your lines (indicated by the dots) instead of just going for each line. Make sure you are still using the ghosting method and your shoulder though as your lines start to wobble and/or arc here. You do a good job keeping your vertical lines vertical relative to the horizon and your horizontals parallel to the horizon and with more ghosting and shoulder action they will get even straighter and more exact.
You did a pretty good job on the rotated box. You are successfully rotating your boxes, except the bottom vertical axis could benefit from more rotation as the converging lines are pretty parallel in that region. Your lines are alright, it's understandable that it can be overwhelming to ghost and prep every line when the page becomes so cluttered, but it is paramount that we work that habit into our subconscious. You drew this large, which is what we like to see, but you could have afforded to pack your boxes closer together to leverage adjacent edges being nearly parallel and this helps make our lives easier in terms of perspective. Uncomfortable talks more on the matter here so go back and read that again now that you've completed the exercise and it should click a little better now.
Finally let's look at your organic perspective. While your perspective is skewed in most of the boxes, they all appear to exist cohesively in the same space which helps the viewer overlook these errors (as long as they are small like most of yours). Usually students have perspective errors in terms of large divergences - with far planes larger than near planes, but you do a good job keeping your lines parallel - too parallel in fact! To jog your memory I'm going to link this section to show you how lines will always converge to some vanishing point. In this scene the points are far away, but still existent, so lines will still converge, just very slowly. All in all though this is a good exercise. I like your compositions and you weren't afraid to overlap your boxes. There are a few places where you did a re-do line, but make sure to kick that habit early! We plan our marks and prepare carefully then live with the results.
With that, you are complete with lesson 1, good job! Now your next step is to move on to the 250 box challenge. There are a lot of great resources so make sure to take your time to ingest them all and to take breaks to draw for fun so you don't burn out. Keep up the good work and we will see you when you finish them.
svendogee in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-06-21 03:06
Hey there, I'm one of uncomfortable's TAs and I'll be going over your lesson 1 submission so let's get started.
Starting with your super imposed lines, you've put in a lot of work here. Your lines are confident and smooth which is good, the fraying is natural and will tighten up with time, but it's clear you are using confident strokes with the shoulder at this point. Your ghosted lines are also confident for the most part, there are some hiccups here and there and the occasional arcing, but overall you are off to a good start.
Moving on to your ellipses, there is still the smooth confidence, but not as much in terms of accuracy and control. This is understandable as drawing with the shoulder is a challenge in and of itself, and then trying to draw ellipses just adds another layer of complexity. You've done a good job drawing through and you have a fair number of strong showings in here. Just continue to practice these in your warm ups and they will improve. With your funnels exercise your ellipses are once again smooth and confident, but be mindful that the center line of the funnel is supposed to serve as the minor axis of the ellipses; yours are skewed a few degrees.
With your rough perspective boxes you have some things you've done really well, such as keeping your horizontal and vertical lines oriented correctly with respect to the horizon (parallel and perpendicular, respectively). I can see by your dots you are also planning ahead and ghosting each line which is what we like to see. To continue to tighten up your perspective just repeat the process of ghosting towards your vanishing point, and if you are worried you will overshoot your box, what I like to do is just lift the pen instead of trying to fight against the ghosting muscle memory to stop the motion.
Your rotated box is definitely rough, and while this exercise is more about exposing students to different types of spatial problems and solution strategies and not perfect execution, I would have liked to have seen a little more care taken. For instance, your hatching is very sloppy and haphazard and even though they are secondary lines to the boxes themselves, they should still be treated with care and ghosted accordingly. Additionally, remember to keep your boxes tightly packed so that you can use adjacent edges to help guide you along, as described here. I can see some attempts at rotating your boxes (left axis), but for the most part they are just shifted, as indicated by the converging lines of boxes being parallel as opposed to targeting different vanishing point locations. One last thing I'd like to mention is to draw larger. When we draw large we give our brain more room to think through these spatial puzzles, and will come in handy in future lessons and whenever you are drawing anything, really. Like I said in the beginning, this exercise isn't about perfect execution and more of an introduction to these problems, so don't take it to heart.
Finally let's look at your organic perspective exercise. You've done a good job conveying a sense of 3d space with your compositions, especially with these "super foreground" large boxes, they do a really good job of setting the scene. Your line work is pretty good throughout, but there is some overshooting which you didn't exhibit in the great showing of your ghosted lines exercise, so always remember to take that same care. Your perspective isn't terrible, you are definitely making an effort to have converging lines, but falling just a tad short still, but this will soon be remedied by 250 boxes! And with that, your lesson 1 is complete and you are free to move on to the 250 box exercise. Be sure to take advantage of all of the great resources uncomfortable has provided and to take your time. This can be a draining challenge, so make sure to take 50% of your time for fun drawing!
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge (Patreon Critique Thread)"
2019-06-08 16:03
Hi there, sizb. Taking a while to get through something like the box challenge is not a bad thing, and thanks for the extra context and self awareness as that will help me tailor my review of your work.
You have done a lot of good work here and shown good progress throughout the challenge. Right from box #1 your line quality is strong and confident and you stick with your lines, even if they miss their mark which is a really good thing. One thing that you would have benefit from is to have hatched the near plane of your boxes, not only for extra line practice but also clarity and keeping things straight in your mind. In some of your boxes you actually did your check lines in the wrong direction (#13 for instance, the red lines should have gone the other direction) and those mistakes are harder to make when hatching planes. On top of that it also helps visual clarity for the viewer and since dynamic sketching is all about communication, anything that provides clarity to the viewer is important.
As you get to your final boxes your convergences are improving quite a bit and you have a good mixture of very subtle convergences and a few extreme ones, which is a good spread since more often than not what we draw will have that subtle perspective. In your boxes you sometimes are still having problems with one of the interior or "back lines" that is common for many students, and imposter has made a lovely infographic on how to tackle that problem here. The main points to take away from this are that we need to look at all parallel lines as a set instead of looking at pairs of parallel lines that make up a single plane of the box. All of the parallel lines are related to each other via the vanishing point and how far or close it is. When the VP moves, the angles between these parallel lines will change and that is what we need to pay attention to. So just read over that and keep it in mind when drawing boxes.
Good job, your 250 box challenge is complete! You may now proceed to lesson 2 and we will see you when you finish. Keep up the good work.
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge"
2019-02-10 01:41
Hey there! Right off the bat I noticed you have very nice draftsmanship in your boxes.
You are showing a good progression of your command in perspective and getting your parallel
lines to converge as you go throughout the challenge, as well as having various orientations. I will say that while your draftsmanship is nice, your lines are
consistently over shooting throughout the duration of the 250 boxes. While
our main goal is to gain a better grasp of three dimensional space as well as
raw mileage, line quality and accuracy is also something to be mindful of. In the future I would like to see you be a little more mindful of accuracy and try to stop those lines exactly where intended.
Aside from the overshoot, the only other draftsmanship thing I want to bring up is to consider adding lineweight around the perimeter of the boxes as shown here
https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/1/lineweight As far as general convergence goes, you are doing a fine job with both vanishing points that are near as well as further away. You really seem to have a handle on the angles between parallel lines and how they relate to the distance of vanishing points (https://i.imgur.com/8PqQLE0.png)
All in all, you've done a nice job and I will be marking this lesson as complete. Uncomfortable will be around to confirm this and give your flair but feel free to move on to lesson 2, being mindful of not overshooting your lines when drawing your forms. Have a good one!
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge"
2019-02-05 20:51
Hey there I'm sven, one of uncomfortable's new teaching assistants. I am going to start off by saying you have shown some improvement throughout your 250 boxes in terms of line quality and you are slowly building up a better sense of perspective with your convergence. However, there are some very serious aspects of the challenge that it appears were not implemented for maximum feedback for your improvement. Your pages are packed to the brim with boxes. Normally packing pages of a sketchbook with studies is great, but in this instance it is hard to properly learn anything from what the line extensions tell you. These line extensions are just as important as the boxes themselves, because this is what helps us see where we are hitting the mark and where we are falling short with things like convergence. From this information we apply it to the next page to improve just a little bit more and then repeat the process again. https://i.imgur.com/IjgdTG0.jpg this page is a particular showcase of how little there is to glean from all of the extensions bleeding into each other. Additionally, there are many cases where you aren't applying the line extensions correctly and they are going off in a direction different from the line itself. Remember: as an extension, the line should continue in the same path as the original one you drew. All of this compounds to a point where you are repeating the same mistakes page after page and not getting nearly as much out of this exercise as intended.
One more point I would like to bring up is how to think about sets of parallel lines converging to a single point. https://i.imgur.com/8PqQLE0.png this diagram shows the relationship between the angles of the lines as they leave the VP and how they relate to each other once they are in a box. Notice how lines that are close together have a very small angle between each other at the vanishing point, and the further the vanishing point is from the box that angle will continue to shrink, causing our lines in our box to become more and more parallel. Take some time to digest this diagram and apply that thought process to your future boxes.
I have spoken with uncomfortable and we think it is appropriate to ask you to do 25 more boxes. Please take your time with these. Address each box as its own challenge and be mindful of how each set of lines converges to a shared vanishing point. Draw these boxes bigger and fit 5 to 7 to a page to give you plenty of room for extension lines. Once you finish a page, draw your extension lines and really analyze when you had a good box vs a bad one and why that is. Make sure you continue to be mindful of line quality with the ghosting technique as you were with these boxes. Once you finish your 25 boxes resubmit them as a reply in this comment chain and we will pick up from there. I can see your ability to create solid boxes in space, we just want to be mindful of how to examine our boxes once they have been drawn.
svendogee in the post "Lesson 7: Drawing Vehicles"
2018-03-29 15:28
Question: you say things along the lines of rendering light and shadow is a crutch to not understanding construction proper form. If I wanted to take things like this from line drawing to...whatever is next. Is the term rendering? How do I go about it? Or is it the same thing: light and shadow, just I happen to know to construct proper forms?
Anyways, thank you
svendogee in the post "Lesson 6: Drawing Everyday Objects"
2018-02-14 16:55
One question: When drawing the fidget spinner, I trisected the circle as you would on a 2D circle, but as you can see it ended up quite skewed. Is this just a side effect of imperfect perspective or is there a larger problem at play?
svendogee in the post "Lesson 5: Drawing Animals"
2018-01-19 01:31
I'm having a hard time on the cat face seeing the difference between the eyelids I drew and your red line one
svendogee in the post "Lesson 5: Drawing Animals"
2018-01-18 15:23
Ooof, that was a rough, but necessary splash of cold water. Thank you.
Went back to very basics, draw through every ellipse, ghost every line, plan every stroke, fearless construction lines. Spent more time studying skeletal structures and proportions.
Eye sockets in the skulls, and start each eye with a sphere then eye lids.
svendogee in the post "250 Box Challenge"
2018-01-09 16:02
Let me know if you need me to adjust levels on the photos, they seem kind of jank on my monitor.
svendogee in the post "Lesson 4: Drawing Insects and Arachnids"
2017-10-18 22:15
4 pages of lay ins and 8 of more fleshed out. Thank you as always for your time!
svendogee in the post "Lesson 3: Drawing Plants"
2017-07-17 16:09
Long time coming, lesson 3: http://imgur.com/a/W8Oo8
One Question: When dealing with objects that don't have much detail, like leaves on a succulent, how do you portray form? I sketched a few experiment leaves trying with contour lines, but it made the whole thing feel unnatural and distracting.
As always, thank you!
svendogee in the post "Lesson 2: Organic Forms, Contour Lines, Dissections and Form Intersections"
2017-05-12 12:01
Alright, thank you! I misunderstood with the line weights and was adding more weight to every line, but I get it now.
svendogee in the post "Lesson 2: Organic Forms, Contour Lines, Dissections and Form Intersections"
2017-05-11 16:22
Lesson 2.
I know the textures exercise is supposed to be difficult, but I can't help but feel like I'm missing something key. Anyways, excited to hear your thoughts. Thank you!
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2019-09-20 21:57
Hi Preypredator, I'm the one who handles order fulfillment. With our standard shipping, 3-5 days is the exact estimate I would give anyone in the contiguous United States.