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5:48 PM, Tuesday July 5th 2022

Hi there, I'll be handling your box challenge critique.

Not only does the challenge help deepen your understanding of important concepts but it shows your desire to learn as well. That being said I'll try to keep this critique fairly brief so you can get working on the next steps as soon as possible.

Things you did well:

  • Your construction lines are mostly looking smooth and confidently drawn by the end of the challenge.

  • It's good to see that you're taking the time to plan and evenly space your hatching lines just remember to draw them confidently as well.

  • You're doing a great job of experimenting with orientations. Experimenting is an important habit to build when learning any new skill, it helps form a more well rounded understanding. I hope you'll continue to display and nurture this habit in the future.

Things you can work on:

  • Line weight isn't a requirement of the challenge but I do recommend practicing it in your future attempts. It's an incredibly useful tool but one that people often require a fair bit of mileage before they feel comfortable applying it. The sooner you start to build up that mileage the sooner you'll see better results.

  • You're drawing way too small, I'd like you to draw larger in the future. Drawing large will help you become more comfortable working from the shoulder and allow you to see any mistakes you've made more clearly. We recommended 5-6 large boxes per page.

  • I'd like you to experiment with proportions and rates of foreshortening more. At the moment most of your boxes are fairly similar in terms of shape, try mixing in some longer/thinner/wider boxes to see how your lines behave in different scenarios. As for foreshortening it appears like you don't have vanishing points clearly in mind when drawing your boxes, your lines are diverging wildly and they rarely converge consistently. You mostly try to keep your lines as parallel as you can with one set of lines possibly converging, try bringing your vanishing points in closer so that your lines have to converge more dramatically.

  • There are times when your lines converge in pairs or you attempt to keep your lines a bit too parallel which results in them diverging. This is an example of lines converging in pairs, and this shows the relation between each line in a set and their respective vanishing point. The inner pair of lines will be quite similar unless the box gets quite long and the outer pair can vary a lot depending on the location of the vanishing point. Move it further away and the lines become closer to parallel while moving it closer increases the rate of foreshortening.

The key things we want to remember from this exercise are that our lines should always converge as a set not in pairs, never diverge from the vanishing point and due to perspective they won't be completely parallel.

I won't be moving you on to the next lesson just yet, each lesson builds off concepts in the previous course material so if you move forward with un-addressed issues you end up just creating further issues on top of them.

I'd like you to draw 100 more boxes please. Focus on keeping more concrete vanishing points in mind so that you get your convergences under control. Draw larger and experiment with proportions and rates of foreshortening as well.

If you have any questions before you get started feel free to ask them.

Once you've completed your boxes reply to this critique with a link to them, I'll address anything that needs to be worked on and once you've shown you're ready I'll move you on to the next lesson.

I know you can do this and look forward to seeing your work.

Next Steps:

100 more boxes please.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
8:37 PM, Tuesday August 23rd 2022

https://imgur.com/a/pTMIdhw

Hello, I apologize for the time it took to accomplish this task. I still have issues aligning my lines to the vanishing point without them crossing but I think I've had a few improvements.

6:45 PM, Wednesday August 24th 2022

So I'm tagging myself in here for Tofu. Looking through your work (and the initial submission), I do think you're improving somewhat, but there is one main issue that stands out - you still tend to have a ton of divergence. This issue speaks less to a matter of skill (like something that'll just get better with practice), and rather suggests to me that you may not be focusing your attention on the right things, or in the right areas.

Sometimes students will get hyperfocused on the back corner, because that's generally the thing that's going to be the most out of whack. As a result, the actual convergences of your sets of lines is still pretty scattered, with a ton being entirely diverging - which as noted throughout the instructions is exactly what we're trying to avoid.

So for example, if we look at 98 on the last page, two out of the three sets of lines are diverging. Being that we want our lines to converge as they move farther away from the viewer, when noticing this kind of issue when extending your lines (extending the lines makes the inconsistencies in convergences more obvious so we can identify and address the issues after all), this should be something you're actively attempting to address - but I do not believe that it is, based on what I'm seeing.

Getting back to the back corner, many students will focus on that instead of the convergences of their lines as they extend further away. The back corner becomes a red herring - it's a symptom of the issue, but not its cause. The cause is, as is stressed throughout the challenge, the convergence of your lines towards their shared vanishing points.

Thus, it is critically important that you are always thinking about how the line you're about to draw is supposed to converge in a consistent manner with its siblings, the lines with which it is meant to share a vanishing point. While there's still lots of room for smaller mistakes where the lines converge, but do so at different rates, meeting at different points, actively thinking about how your lines are meant to converge should be enough to avoid complete divergence.

As this is still a significant concern in your work, I am going to ask for 10 additional boxes. Obviously in the face of the 350 you've done thus far, that's not going to be much - but I want you to consciously think about how each and every line you're drawing is meant to converge with all of its siblings (including those you haven't yet drawn).

That said, given that I'm only having you draw 10, that each individual instance where all the lines of a given set are diverging as they move farther from the viewer is going to stand out a lot more, and will suggest that there are still major issue with how you're approaching the activity. So take your time with each box, and with each line you draw.

3:14 PM, Thursday August 25th 2022
edited at 3:16 PM, Aug 25th 2022

Hello

Here is the the remedial work requested: https://imgur.com/a/kjXtdcQ

I watched the draw a box video again to see if there was anything i was not grasping and to me it did seem to help. I also found that drawng in the perspective presented in #10 and 3 is difficult for me.

Thank you for your time and patience.

edited at 3:16 PM, Aug 25th 2022
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