250 Box Challenge

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I would appreciate any feedback! Also sometime I identify my mistakes by using pencil for the lines to be convergenced!

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6:46 AM, Thursday September 16th 2021

Hello! NNGPGTRANG. I'm Chiran and I Decided To Check your Submission and offer my thoughts on your 250 box Challenge.

I'll try as best as possible to provide a helpful and solid analysis of your work.

before we get started these are the name given specifically because of their order and to represent the specific section of the boxes

Newbies - ( 1-100 boxes) 2. Intermediates - (101-200 boxes) and 3. pros - ( 201- 250 boxes).

This feedback will consist of three parts. So let's start exploring the three parts.

PART 1: THE PRAISES ( The job you did well in the challenge) :)

  • The first and foremost job which was done well was taking the time to check your mistakes by extending the set of parallel lines away from the viewer. because of this, the Convergences in the pros are becoming Consistent at the end of the challenge.

  • The job of ghosting is Also done well here. meaning you did take time to plan where your lines starts and Ends by plotting down the points before actually Committing to them and this should be continued throughout the rest of the course in order to develop some kind of patience and Confidence in drawing.

  • another job you did well was constructing various varieties of boxes in this challenge without repeating the similar type of boxes. so thats great too!

PART 2: WHERE IT WENT SLIGHTLY OFF? ( Where you should keep an eye on) ( No worries part!)

I think you are headed in the right direction and you have understood the concept of perspective very well so the box challenge has done its job.but there are some hiccups in your work that needs to be identified and removed.

so yeah I will do my job to mention and identify some of the issues in your works and you can do your job by including 1-2 boxes in your warm ups to reduce them in the future.

Alright lets start with your Lines-

  • Your line work looks really solid and confident but they are times where you seem to hesitate while executing resulting in a slow and wobbly lines. Like we can see on most of the newbies lines. they got better in the later boxes but you should always Aware of your mistakes and work towards them by trying your best to avoid them.

  • while line weight and hatching are optional in this challenge.It would have been better if you had applied them ( only line weight ) Even from the beginning to reinforce the form you are constructing ( in this case box).They take time to get comfortable with, so the challenge is a great place to start practicing both. we advice you to continue using those tools even in warm ups to build mileages with them.

  • also make sure that while applying Line weight and hatching lines that, the lines are preplanned and executed with confidence from the shoulder to avoid wobbly and inconsistent lines. ( planning means plotting down the starting and end points).

Moving on to Boxes:

  • Of course Your Convergence set of parallel lines have much Improved at the End of the Challenge,but there are times where some of the set of lines converges at a faster rates than the others resulting in converging in pairs. yep this issue you can definitely work on, in your warm ups. by trying to know the relationships between each lines related to its distance.https://imgur.com/KSHwTwo. and the back corner lines got a little off of the tangent there. It's completely and totally normal at this stage to have the back corner line slightly off compared to the rest. but try to always keep in mind that every lines in the boxes behave differently even in a subtle manner( as in case of shallow foreshortening)

  • If I just have to Nitpick something then, there are Times where your boxes have some divergence Issue with the lines.o we should remember always that all the parallel lines in the 3d world will appear to converge on a 2d flat page.so a set of parallel lines ( A set of parallel lines= 4 lines moving Either only in X or y or Z direction) converge to a specific vanishing point which lies either in X or y or Z direction.

  • I just want to remind you something here is that- In a Minor areas some of the boxes are left incomplete. My suggestion on those is to always push yourself to complete the Boxes Even when you are not feeling to complete or not knowing how to Complete. So Complete them with your best of your current ability move on to the next by writing down the mistakes you have made in that box and try your best to reduce them in the future boxes. this is how we learn!.

PART 3: THE JOB WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE OUR BOXES IN OUR WARM UPS:

  • The Converging in pairs and Lines diverging Issues will take more time and practice to get reduced in our work. So we should always be mindful of the lines relationship respective to its relative position from the Vanishing points. https://i.imgur.com/8PqQLE0.png.

THE INNER CORNER PARADOX: In this challenge, we are estimating where our lines going to converge to a point. as we are humans, it is almost impossible to perfectly estimate where our lines will going to converge thereby resulting in an error. this error will continue to accumulate as we construct the box freely rotated in space. finally this accumulated error will be thrown to the back corner. So its pretty normal to have the inner back corner come out pretty off.

I want to take a look at this info here;https://i.imgur.com/8PqQLE0.png

In this image we can know that how each line will behave relating to the position from its neighbouring edges and the VP.So we can arrive at the conclusion that, If the distance between the internal edges and external edges gets reduce more and more they will eventually become parallel to one and another ( but keep in mind they will converge slightly at a negligable amount no matter what). Alternatively If the distance between the internal corner and the external grow more and more the internal line will also converge.

you can also try and start from the back corner if the box is narrower.https://imgur.com/a/DHlA3Jh.

if your aware of these notes, then you need to build mileage by including 1-2 boxes in your daily warm up routine. after that your boxes will get better and better and will eventually make you happy at the end. :D

you can plot as many points of starting and end point of a line in a box and can check them without Even committing to them while ghosting over them.

  • feel free to experiment with different speed of drawing your lines from point A to point B during your warm up session and opt for the smooth and consistent ones.If the lines came out dark, wobbly, contains subtle S curve and undershooted then increasing the speed of drawing your lines can reduce these issues. however if the lines are overshooting more and the flow of ink in your pen is inconsistent then its advisable to reduce the speed and try to lift the pen off the page when reaching the end dot.

  • And as always continue to experiment with your boxes and have fun with it. practice some bigger boxes and dramatic foreshortening boxes to solve some more spatial problems.

  • Always make an effort to take your time while adding line weight and hatching to boxes in order to reinforce the solidity we are conveying. make sure to plan them before executing them.because every marks we make should serve its purposes.

  • Last but not the least, THE WARM UPS.

MY POINT OF VIEW:

we all know, this challenge was very intimidating because of constructing 250 boxes arbitrarily rotated in 3d and yet you did a great job by keeping persistent till the end with lots of effort, focus, energy and time so hats off for that. Be proud of What you have Accomplished

" A BOX A DAY KEEP OUR ISSUES AWAY"

Yes, We've come to the end of this feedback. overall, this was a solid submission Your submission reveals that you did take time to read through the lesson materials, followed the instructions and executed to your best of your ability. so that's good job!..thank you for submitting your assignment to the community.I'm confident that you will improve much better In the future by keeping the mistakes in mind in your Warm ups.

so yeah I'm allowing you to move on to Lesson 2 by marking your lesson as Complete.

Yippee ! we have completed this challenge. congratulations!. I hope this feedback helps . Have a wonderful artistic journey. keep goin. I'm awaiting to see your Progress.

Thank you NNGPG.

Next Steps:

NEXT?-

  • feel free to move on to lesson 2

  • set a timer for 10 or 15 minutes- know your goal , be conscious of your mistakes and fight for 10 or 15 minutes in warm ups. be as perfect as you can but don't expect perfection!. practice some lesson 1 Exercises into your warm ups also.

THANK YOU!

This community member feels the lesson should be marked as complete, and 2 others agree. The student has earned their completion badge for this lesson and should feel confident in moving onto the next lesson.
3:32 PM, Thursday September 16th 2021

Thank you so much for your detailed critique and analysis!! Have a great day sir!

2:40 PM, Sunday September 19th 2021

hello!. thank you very much for your time and effort in responding to my feed back. I'm glad that you found my critique helpful.

have a great day as well!

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