250 Box Challenge

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Hi there!

I've recently switched to official critiques and have already finished this challenge in the past, so I've been told that it's okay to re-submit my original submission and only do 50 boxes instead of re-doing the whole challenge.

Notes on the +50 boxes:

I'm trying really hard to ditch the "correcting my lines" habit, I really am, but there are still a few times where I've corrected a line or two, because sometimes my markers wouldn't make a proper mark on the paper just a very very pale one or none at all*, so I'd draw with that marker, on another paper, quick little circles to get the nib wet again and try to do a second pass on the same line but a bunch of times that turned out rather badly.

I think I should be more patient and ghost more to get the line right on the second try but the nib would get dry again. It can get very frustrating. ^^"

(* my theory is that I'm ghosting too much (~30-60 secs) and the nib dries out by the time it would touch the paper(?)

I don't think that I'm pushing the marker too hard on the paper because it makes no dent in it, so I don't really know what I might be doing wrong)

Anyways, thanks for reading, and thank you for checking out my submission!

Have a good one! :D

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4:18 PM, Tuesday March 9th 2021

Congratulations for completing the 250 Box Challenge!

You did a good job on the challenge overall. From what I can see your line work is fairly well done and your boxes are coming along well.

Before we begin I just want to let you know that in general TAs will ignore student self assessment or critique so as not to contaminate our own critique of your work. If you have any questions not answered in your critique, feel free to ask them here. To answer your question about the ink issue you are having, you do need to allow some time between strokes for your pen tip to "reload" with ink. If you find that your pen is not making the rich marks we strive for then slowing down and taking more time between strokes may solve that issue. You can always use that extra time to practice your ghosting more.

Also, in the future, when you go to scan your homework submissions, it would be better to scan your homework using the "photo" setting instead of the "drawing" setting. The drawing setting tends to up the contrast on an image and can cause you to lose some of the subtlety in your line work.

Back to your critique.

I would recommend that you try adding extra line weight to your boxes as a permanent step for your future warm ups.

When you go to add weight to a line it is important that you treat the added weight the same way you would a brand new line. That means taking your time to plan and ghost through your mark so that when you go to execute your extra line weight, it is done confidently and so that it blends seamlessly with your original mark. This will allow you to create more subtle and clean looking weight to your lines that reinforces the illusion of solidity in your boxes/forms. Extra line weight should be applied to the silhouette of your boxes. I recommend that you try adding your extra line weight in no more than 1-2 pases so that you can easily identify mistakes in your work. This diagram should help you better understand how to properly apply your extra line weight.

Extra line weight should never be used to correct or hide mistakes. Something to keep in mind as well, when you are working through Drawabox you should be employing the ghosting method for every mark you make. This includes the hatching that we sometimes use for our boxes.

For some of your boxes, you appear to have purposely tried to keep your sets of lines parallel on the 2D page, drawing them all to an "infinite" vanishing point. As explained in this section, because these boxes are oriented with us looking at the corner of the box, you should be drawing your boxes in 3 point perspective - meaning with 3 concrete vanishing points, each set of lines converging towards a real point in space, even if that point is far off and the convergence is gradual. At no point in the instructions does it state that you should draw your boxes without any foreshortening. All of the boxes you draw will have some foreshortening even if the convergence is very gradual. The circumstances in which vanishing points go to “infinite” as discussed in lesson 1 are only in specific orientations that run parallel to the viewer. In this exercise we are working with completely random rotations and so those cases are exceedingly rare. You can also watch this video I made where I demonstrate how I approach drawing boxes.

To clarify, when I say "sets of parallel lines" or refer to your sets of lines as parallel, I am referring to lines that are parallel in 3d space not parallel on the page. If you remember from lesson one, the core principle of perspective is that when we draw a 3d form on a flat surface those lines that are parallel in 3d will now converge towards a shared vanishing point on the page.

Which means your sets of lines will not appear perfectly parallel on the page. Think about how those lines converge, do not purposely try to keep them parallel on the page.

I think this diagram will help you as well. When you are looking at your sets of lines you want to be focusing only on the lines that share a vanishing point. This does not include lines that share a corner or a plane, only lines that converge towards the same vanishing point. Now when you think of those lines, including those that have not been drawn, you can think about the angles from which they leave the vanishing point. Usually the middle lines have a small angle between them, and this angle will become negligible by the time they reach the box. This can serve as a useful hint.

Before moving onto lesson 2, I am going to have you draw 10 additional boxes.

For these boxes you will do the following:

  • Use the ghosting method for every mark you make, including hatching and extra line weight

  • Apply extra line weight in a single pass along the entire silhouette of your boxes

  • Draw all of your boxes in 3pt Perspective

  • 5 boxes per page maximum

  • Check all of your convergences as per the instructions

I will mainly be looking at the quality of your mark making to see if you are employing the ghosting method correctly for all of your mark making, including extra line weight and hatching. I will also be looking at your boxes to make sure your sets of lines are not being kept purposefully parallel.

Make sure you visit every link I have left for you and reread the challenge instructions in their entirety before beginning your revisions.

Next Steps:

10 additional boxes as described in the critique.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
11:42 AM, Friday March 12th 2021

Here you can find the additional boxes

Thanks for telling me about the self assessment stuff, I'll keep that in mind! (and of course, thanks for the time and effort you put into reviewing my homework! :D)

Also, I've checked my scanner's settings and I've been using photo mode, but I've discovered that it had some image processing settings turned on by default (namely: image compression and sharpen outline), so I've turned them off and increased the dpi from 300 to 400, so please let me know if the scans are any better now.

I've made sure to study/follow all the links/instructions you've provided, and reread the challenge page, plus revisited the ghosting section for a quick revision too.

9:13 PM, Friday March 12th 2021

Your scans look a bit better, just keep in mind that it is the upped contrast that is removing some of the details in your mark making, not an issue with dpi or resolution. These are fine but if you are able to, taking your work outside and photographing it under natural light works best, in my experience.

All that being said this is a very good improvement! You've done a good job of maintaining a consistent quality in your mark making and your sets of lines are doing a better job of converging towards their shared vanishing points.

I will go ahead and mark this lesson as complete and you can now move onto lesson 2!

Next Steps:

Continue to lesson 2!

This critique marks this lesson as complete.
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