250 Box Challenge

8:35 AM, Thursday June 3rd 2021

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Hello !

This one took me a long time ! It was also quite boring, it probably doubles up as a patience test.

Here are a few comments:

  1. I guess the path is more important than the destination but I'm not sure if I made a lot of progress. I think I got the theory right from the beginning but my execution was the bigger challenge and I'm not sure if just making more boxes helped me improve. Maybe I should have posted intermediate results for feedback to know what to focus on more.

  2. I have trouble with drawing shorter lines from shoulder compared to longer ones.

  3. The back corner (the one hidden behind the box that I usually draw last) is always a struggle to place. Very often, there does not seem to be a place that would be fine for all 3 vanishing points and I end up going for an "in between" position. Would it be better to sacrifice one line to get the other 2 converging more convincingly?

  4. I had no intention to draw actual boxes, I mainly started from a random Y hence the placement of my vanishing points is quite arbitrary. So I'm not sure how to translate what I learn into real drawings but I guess it's in the next lessons.

  5. More often than not I used temporary points as guides before drawing my lines, not sure if this was allowed but I noticed it helped me converging a bit better.

  6. For the first time I noticed that changing paper or pen has quite an impact on the straightness of my lines.

Thanks a lot for the review !

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7:22 AM, Saturday June 5th 2021

Hi, I'll be handling your box challenge critique.

Congratulations on completing the challenge, not only is it demanding in terms of technical abilities but as you mentioned it takes a lot of patience and will power to get through, by no means is it fun but it is useful when tackled with a desire to learn and the instructions are followed.

Before getting into your critique I'll quickly address the points you brought up.

1) You did make progress, could you have made more? Possibly, but everyone learns at different rates and by no means did you make less progress than I would expect so don't worry. As long as you're making conscious decisions and taking your time to observe your mistakes you will improve, it can however take a lot of mileage which is part of why this is an effective exercise, it's a lot of mileage with some restrictions. You have to draw 250 boxes, they shouldn't all be the same, and you shouldn't be crossing out your attempts to grind more than what was asked so it keeps you moving forward.

2) This is normal and something that improves with mileage and as you build up muscle memory, just have to keep trying.

3) This is also normal, each box is composed of 3 sets of lines basically, and if one line is off it will effect every other line in that box so if it your rear corner feels like it doesn't line up correctly it's most likely a sign that you've already made a mistake. This means that you can't really "fix" the issue (when working with ink at least) so you just have to attempt to keep your line consistent with the rest of the set.

4) I'm not entirely certain what you mean in this point, if by not intentionally drawing boxes you mean you weren't thinking about them as you drew them this is a mistake. Starting out with a Y is totally fine (it's why it's recommended in the exercise instructions) but you should generally try to picture your box as you plan it out.

5) This is not only fine but also encouraged in lesson 1, taking the time to plan the best you can before drawing is a good thing and encourages patience.

6) It can definitely have an effect but you'll usually adapt pretty quick.

With all that out of the way let's get to your critique, I'm going to attempt to keep it pretty concise as answering everything above took longer than expected.

  • Your lines are improving but you do still have some wobbling and arcing occurring which shows you still need to work on your confidence and using your shoulder.

  • It's great that you drew large, it'll help you become more comfortable using your shoulder and shows you your mistakes more clearly.

  • I'm glad to see you experimented with orientations and proportions as well, experimentation and mileage are two important factors in improving. If you drew the same box 250 times you'd be better at drawing that box but find yourself less comfortable when working with others.

  • I'm not sure where you changed supplies but around half way through your submission I notice your line quality gets a bit more inconsistent, you also stopped hatching at this point which is a shame as it's great practice in terms of applying the ghosting method and drawing confidently. I'd also encourage you to experiment with line weight more as mentioned in the challenge instructions, it'll be increasingly useful starting in lesson 2 so there's no harm in getting more comfortable with the idea now.

  • While your convergences are more consistent you do still have some moments where your lines converge in pairs rather than as a set. I'd like to point you to this example quickly, it shows how each line in a set relates to one another. You'll notice the inner pair remains fairly similar while the outer pair can vary quite a bit depending on how far the vanishing point is from your box. Remember that our goal isn't to have perfectly parallel lines since perspective plays a factor, they should always converge slightly at the very least and should converge as an entire set instead of as pairs.

Overall your submission was solid, you do have some things to work on still and experiment with but I have no doubt that with more mileage you'll improve as long as you put in the effort too. I'll be moving you on to lesson 2 and marking your submission complete.

Keep practicing previous exercises as warm ups, make sure you spend some time addressing your line confidence and good luck in lesson 2!

Next Steps:

Move on to lesson 2.

This critique marks this lesson as complete.
12:23 AM, Monday June 7th 2021

A huge thank you for your review, answering my questions and the useful advices !

It is really reassuring and useful and very detailed. I'll try to apply your tips and improve on the specific points you highlighted and I'm super excited for lesson 2 !

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