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11:01 PM, Wednesday February 8th 2023
edited at 11:07 PM, Feb 8th 2023

Hello Lau, thank you for replying with your revisions.

This is a big step in the right direction.

Your work overall shows less focus on decoration and more focus on construction, which is good to see.

You've stopped cutting back inside forms you've already drawn. Nicely done.

Your line work on this dog head is really good! You didn't trace back over your lines to add unnecessary extra line weight. Going back over your lines does crop up here and there, for example on the line I've circled here on your bird. That section of line line is not clarifying an overlap with another form, you've drawn over it again just because that's the section of the line that is visible.

You're constructing your legs from complete forms now instead of partial shapes, good. These forms are generally sticking more closely to sausage forms but the hind leg on this stoat has a form that is more elliptical than sticking to the characteristics of sausage forms that I shared with you in my initial critique. You're not including the contour curve for the intersection at the joints. I made a point of including this version of the sausage method diagram with you, with those contour curves highlighted in red. They're step 3 in this colour coded diagram that I made for you. I appreciate that I did share a lot of information with you, if anything is unclear or confusing you are welcome to ask questions. If you understand what you're being asked to do, then it is your job to make sure that you take as much time as necessary to absorb and apply the information that has been presented to you. Remember these critiques are a collaboration, I'm here to catch any information you may have misunderstood, not as a replacement for your own efforts in remembering the lesson material. For clarity's sake, I've drawn the missing contour curves for the intersections in red on your horse.

The other note on the horse is about extending your constructions with partial shapes instead of complete forms. In green, you'd established a solid 3D form for your neck, which is good. In blue you'd extended that neck form with some partial shapes. I went over the importance of adding complete forms to your constructions in my initial critique, and provided examples to help you understand how to do this.

Another example here on your dog head. I've highlighted in blue where you'd extended your construction with lines, then shown below how to incorporate those extensions as complete 3D forms instead.

It's good that you are working on building on your constructions with additional forms. There are a number of ways we can improve upon them, marked on this horse.

1- As I already stated, it's important that these additions are complete forms with their own fully enclosed silhouettes, no one off lines or partial shapes.

2- Sometimes the silhouette of your additional masses runs parallel to the silhouette of the underlying structures with a very small overlap. The idea is to wrap your additional masses around the underlying structures to give them a good grip. We want them to feel stable and secure, not like they might wobble off if the animal were to move.

3- As I showed in my initial critique, it helps to make your additional masses feel stable and secure by also wrapping them around the shoulder and/or thigh masses.

4- I didn't bring this up before, because there weren't really many additional masses on the legs in your initial submission. You're off to a decent start in the use of additional masses along your leg structures, but this can be pushed farther. A lot of these focus primarily on forms that actually impact the silhouette of the overall leg, but there's value in exploring the forms that exist "internally" within that silhouette - like the missing puzzle piece that helps to further ground and define the ones that create the bumps along the silhouette's edge. Here is an example of what I mean, from another student's work - as you can see, Uncomfortable has blocked out masses along the leg there, and included the one fitting in between them all, even though it doesn't influence the silhouette. This way of thinking - about the inside of your structures, and fleshing out information that isn't just noticeable from one angle, but really exploring the construction in its entirety, will help you yet further push the value of these constructional exercises and puzzles.

And while I was on that Image, a note on head construction.

5- This was something you handled better on your dog and your stoat, but on your horse the muzzle and eye socket are floating separately on the head with an arbitrary gap, I've connected them together for you.

I didn't bring this up before, as there was an awful lot to get to, but I noticed on your stoat and your horse you've made the pelvis mass bigger than the rib cage mass. Take another look at this section from the lesson intro page. The rib cage should occupy roughly half the length of the torso sausage.

I believe the missteps with the sausage method and extending your constructions with lines stem not from a lack of ability, but from not taking as much time as you needed to go over the feedback provided, and being hasty to get through your revisions. Be sure to go over this information thoroughly, as it has been provided for your benefit. Feel free to ask questions if anything said to your here is unclear or confusing. I'll go ahead and mark this as complete.

Next Steps:

250 cylinder challenge

This critique marks this lesson as complete.
edited at 11:07 PM, Feb 8th 2023
5:28 AM, Thursday February 9th 2023

Hello,

Yes! I do agree with you that I have not integrated all the feedback yet, but also i did not want to end up doing Practice Pages (i did actually a few…). Following this advice https://youtu.be/nBjTGvpd-q8 . That being said i appreciate how much work you put on the feedback as well, and i am not trying to disregard it.

So my questions would be:

  • Better to do practice pages if feeling i have not understood everything? (As you pointed out as well)

  • i will continue working on my animals. Could i submit for feedback again after doing the following lesson and waiting the cool down days? (through credits obviously?) otherwise i have more than enough to work on my own!

Thanks again,

9:49 AM, Thursday February 9th 2023

Hello Lau,

We don't require students to produce perfect work, or even good work. All that we require is that you do the assigned pages to the best of your current ability. There are two things that we must give each of our drawings throughout this course in order to get the most out of them. Those two things are space and time. You're doing a good job of making use of the space available on your pages, but I was a tad concerned about how fast you returned with your revisions. The critique was over 2000 words and contained links to over a dozen diagrams, some of which were brand new and you couldn't possibly have seen before. You took about 2 days to read, and process, all this information, as well as actually producing 5 (or more) pages of constructions. I don't doubt for a moment that you put a ton of effort into your work, I just felt that if you had spent longer studying the feedback and diagrams provided (it can be really helpful to copy the diagrams and make notes in your own words before you even start with your pages) then I may not have needed to repeat so much information. There is a lot that you did very well, I skimmed over those topics rather briefly, as I have a lot of critiques to get to, and it is probably more helpful to spend the time I have going over what can be improved than praising what you already do well.

When assigned a certain number of pages of work, you should only be doing what's asked. It's not uncommon that when I have students feeling the need to complete more pages, that they tend to focus less on executing each individual instance of the exercise to the best of their current ability - taking the time to execute each mark, draw each shape, and construct each form as well as they reasonably can (regardless of how much time that takes them), and more on simply getting the exercise done in quantity - but not necessarily to the best of their ability.

Drawing more itself isn't a bad thing on its face, but it's about how it impacts the manner in which we engage with the work. You will always have more opportunities to practice these exercises in your warmups - the quantity we assign is not with the expectation of seeing growth over the set, but just to judge whether your understanding of what you're meant to be doing with the exercise is correct, or whether it requires clarification. Can't really judge that too well if you're spreading the time, energy, and effort you could have dedicated to a single page of a given exercise over multiple pages.

Of course, now that you have had the lesson marked as complete, you can practice these to your heart's content, as I feel that you are now armed with the knowledge to practice these constructions effectively.

If you want to put together a complete new set of pages and make a new submission for further feedback you certainly can. It is not necessary though, you have officially completed this lesson and can feel free to move on to the cylinder challenge.

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