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5:44 PM, Monday June 8th 2020

Sadly it's not a matter of me not wanting to do these exercises in ink, but me not having the materials nor money nor space to do them in ink (My tablet was a gift given to me for my birthday a few years ago, and even then it was purchased at a huge discount.)

As for space, I've had to remove part of my graphic tablet's stand just so it would fit on my desk.

Don't get me wrong -- I completely 100% agree that I would get much much more mileage from doing it with traditional methods, and if I had the materials I would switch to it in a heartbeat, but I am just currently unable to. If it is absolutely necessary, however, I may be able to scrounge up a few pieces of paper and a office ball point ink pen if I look hard enough.

As for CTRL-Z, yes I am already trying to fix this habit. I have been drawing extremely pale lines since childhood, erasing until my drawings became blotchy messes, this is a nasty habit I am working towards getting rid of for these lessons ASAP.

As for your uncertainty on digital mistakes - There are no real tangible mistakes that can be done digitally that aren't done traditionally. At worse, using incorrect canvas resolutions, zooming (Which I avoided altogether by unbinding my scroll wheel), etc.

The biggest difference I can see is that the pen doesn't have as much friction as regular drawing tools, leading to more overshoots.

It is up to you to mark my lesson as complete or not, and while I would personally think it's a little silly to not mark it as complete over something you yourself said you are "unfamiliar with", it's not up to me to make these decisions. Also thanks for the heads up, if I do run into a hurdle and don't get critiques due to using digital, I'll ask the discord instead.

Oh, and sure. I'll switch my pen settings so the pen pressure is more apparent. I could swear uncomfortable said to use fineliners and not ink pens and to just go over a line again to make it more apparent, though.

3:52 AM, Tuesday June 9th 2020
edited at 7:52 AM, Jun 9th 2020

Hello! It's is not at all necessary for you to do DaB in ink just highly recommended. It's only necessary for patreons who get official critiques. Ballpens are also pretty good btw, if in case you want to use them. In fact for lesson 6 onwards their use is actually encouraged. Also you don't need anything fancy for paper. I've used the back of old test papers, old letters, school print-outs, and the back of the papers from my calender for the exercises.

The main reason I encouraged you to switch to ink is that when you go to discord, I thought that people won't be willing to critique your work in the lesson channels. Since I saw someone a while a back who did one of the lessons in digital get told off by some people in the lesson channels to post their work on #art-share instead. I was worried that you might not get any critique even if you posted your work on Discord. And feedback/critique is really important. Once you get it you can practice on your warm-ups knowing you aren't repeating mistakes. Checked again though and yeah you can definitely still get feedback again just with a lower chance though.

Regarding pen pressure. Fineliners or felt tips pens, which are the pens recommended for Lesson 1-5, can give you a variety of line weights depending on how slow or fast you draw, and with how much pressure you put into it. I recommended you use a pen with pen pressure as this is what I saw people in the Discord who did DaB digitally do to better mimic a fineliner pen. Here's an example. Additionally you can see in the video demos that Uncomfortable uses a brush that mimics a fineliner pen. The line thickness isn't even all throughout. It's very subtle but it's there.

Join the Discord btw! The community is nice! I only joined around 4 weeks ago and I've learned so much just by.. existing there hehe

I didn't mark your lesson off as complete because I initially intended for my comment to be taken more of us general feedback rather than an actual critique. I'm sorry, now that I think about it, it is silly that I didn't mark your lesson as complete, seeing as to how you did your best to follow the instructions, and since I approached your submission much like an actual critique. I'm not a teaching assistant btw or anything just a regular dude who's also doing DaB.

Anyway goodluck!!! If your only choice is to do digital then do it!! YOU HAVE MY 100% FULL SUPPORT!!!!!!! Coz in the end what matters most when it comes to leveling up your art skills is the amount of time and effort, and focused practice and study you put in, rather than the medium that you're using. I did some digging and found that there's a few people who did DaB digitally. In the subreddit if you search up the user CrapDepot, he did DaB and he's doing amazing work right now.

Oh yeah one last thing, since you're doing digital I recommend you check out Ctrl+Paint.

This community member feels the lesson should be marked as complete, and 2 others agree. The student has earned their completion badge for this lesson and should feel confident in moving onto the next lesson.
edited at 7:52 AM, Jun 9th 2020
3:56 PM, Tuesday June 9th 2020
edited at 4:01 PM, Jun 9th 2020

If I could afford ctrl+paint I wouldn't be doing these exercises digitally, haha.

I scrounged up a single piece of sketchbook paper & an office ballpoint ink pen made out of recycled cardboard that I got a few years ago at a fare. Hopefully they'll be enough to show that I've learnt this lesson even if I did it digitally. Just as a heads up, the only table with enough space to work on is made out of chipped wood, so a few lines are a bit wonkey.

Anyways, here are the exercises you requested to see done traditionally. I think it's fairly easy to see that they're more or less the same as the digitally done ones.

https://imgur.com/a/eTzspne

If you look closely on the ghosted planes, there's a little arrow pointing to a double line. My cheap ink pen stopped inking like 1/5th through the line so I had to do a pass over. But I believe it's the only time the pen died on me, so it's the only line that I had to pass over.

Hopefully this digital / traditional comparison will help you in the future when it comes to critiquing people who are using digital!

Edit, Oh and sorry for bad quality on the images. I'm not exactly a photographer, so my phone's camera leaves a lot to be desired.

edited at 4:01 PM, Jun 9th 2020
3:09 AM, Wednesday June 10th 2020
edited at 3:12 AM, Jun 10th 2020

Oh wow! Thanks for putting in the effort in to do these extra exercises!! Yeah they look good! Only thing I'd point out is that in some of your ghosted plains I can't see some of the dots at the corners. I'm fairly certain though that you put them there, it maybe just that they're too small to see + the resolution of the image. Just in case though that you didn't, always remember to plot out your lines (placing a start and end point dot).

Anyway yeah, I really enjoyed this exchange. I learned a bunch! Like I didn't know Ctrl+Paint's free library wasn't very in-depth *sweats in embarrassment***. I wish you luck!!!! Move on to the 250 box challenge if you haven't already and don't forget to do your daily warm-ups!!

edited at 3:12 AM, Jun 10th 2020
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