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8:32 AM, Tuesday July 27th 2021

Hi there, I'll be handling your box challenge critique.

Before getting into your critique I will just reiterate a few things about the course. As you mention when getting official critique students are required to start at lesson 1, we do make some exceptions for this if you completed it quite recently but usually if a student gets a decent way through the course it means we end up critiquing old work where you may no longer be struggling with certain issues which means it wastes everyone's time involved (much like if we critique later work and you haven't addressed issues that should have been). Your lesson 1 work got critiqued and was a year old so it was quite out of date but that's fine, but as Benj mentioned we usually ask people to do an additional 50 boxes which I don't believe you've done (if I'm mistaken I apologize, without each box being numbered and pages rotating it can be hard to keep track of).

If your boxes looked like you were struggling this would be an issue and I'd just ask you for 50 more right now before getting into your actual critique, however they're largely looking pretty well done. With that said I'll be making an exception and just considering this a normal submission, but I do need to clarify that from this point forward all of your work is expected to be 100% current and new, meaning you don't start lesson 2 until you get the go ahead to move on to lesson 2, this is so you can work on any issues that come up in this critique and your lesson 1's critique, and you can't hand in your old submissions for official critique anymore.

With all that said let's get started.

Not only does this challenge help deepen your understanding of important concepts but it shows your desire to learn as well.

That being said I'll try to keep this critique fairly brief so you can get working on the next steps as soon as possible.

Things you did well:

  • Your lines are looking smoothly and confidently drawn.

  • It's good to see that you're experimenting with proportions and orientations. Experimenting is key to deepening our understanding of new concepts, it's a great habit to have and one that I hope you'll continue to nurture.

  • You tried to implement line weight, while it can be difficult to become comfortable using it's a helpful tool. It's one that requires a lot of mileage to use effectively so it's good to see you starting to use it sooner rather than later.

  • When you do draw hatching lines they're evenly spaced and confident rather than rushed and messily added as an afterthought.

  • Your convergences appear to be improving and becoming more consistent as you work through the challenge which is great, there's fewer instances of diverging lines that end up causing your boxes to become distorted.

Things to work on:

  • You kept your rate of foreshortening fairly similar throughout the majority of the challenge, remember experimenting is key so I'd encourage you to try positioning your vanishing points at a variety of distances.

  • While you've definitely improved, there are moments where your lines are converging in pairs as shown here, this is a mistake we can work on. If you take a look at this example it shows how each line in a set relates to one another and their vanishing point. The inner pair of lines will be quite similar unless the box gets quite long and the outer pair can vary a lot depending on the location of the vanishing point. Move it further away and the lines become closer to parallel while moving it closer increases the rate of foreshortening.

You're largely on the right track but I do want to see you experiment a bit more to be sure you haven't ended up only able to draw in one particular way. I'll be asking you to draw 15 more boxes, be sure to experiment and keep some of the information given to you in this critique in mind.

Once you've completed them reply to this critique with a link to the pages, I'll go over them and address anything that needs to be worked on and move you on to lesson 2 once you've shown you're ready.

Don't burn yourself out especially now that you only have to do 15 extra rather than 50.

I look forward to seeing your work.

Next Steps:

15 boxes.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
1:19 AM, Friday July 30th 2021
edited at 1:22 AM, Jul 30th 2021

-Don't hesitate to assign me more boxes if you think it would be a good use of time.

edited at 1:22 AM, Jul 30th 2021
1:36 AM, Friday July 30th 2021
edited at 1:40 AM, Jul 30th 2021

If I felt like you needed to work on more to develop a better understanding I would assign more, as mentioned I mostly just want to make sure you're not relying on one rate of foreshortening as a crutch.

If the 15 that I assigned are rough and demonstrate you need to work on them then I may assign more if I feel you need more time with them.

Until that happens however I feel 15 is fine. Once you have been given the go ahead to carry on with the course you'll be doing them along with previous exercises as warm ups and continuing to improve.

The point isn't to grind until perfection just display proper understanding of concepts.

You're doing fine so far, so don't stress about it too much.

edited at 1:40 AM, Jul 30th 2021
2:37 AM, Friday July 30th 2021

https://imgur.com/gallery/WP2SIHw

So sorry, I think I accidentally edited my previous reply and replaced it with that short blip.

In response to what you mentioned about the course and the box challenge. I did all but a hundred or so of these boxes in the past couple weeks as that challenge was one that I was interspersing throughout my other lessons back when I left off. Because of that I hadn't finished it earlier. Also also, to clear things up a little bit on where I currently stand... I left of last year at the end of lesson two and these past few months I have gotten community feedback on that then did lesson three and got community feedback on that and then midway through lesson four I realized I wanted to get more in depth feedback. I also was impatient in waiting for two agrees (on feedback) that never came. Anyways, I finished the 250 box challenge (approx. 100-150 of the boxes) in the past few months alongside lesson three and a good deal of lesson four. So, that's where I stood if that clears anything up. I understand your logic though and will proceed with redoing lesson two when I get the go ahead.

Thank you again for the care you take in your feedback and for your encouragement.

Best,

 Trizzle
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