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1:12 AM, Thursday July 27th 2023

https://imgur.com/a/cCTRbJG

As you can see, the closer that the box I am drawing is to the VP, the easier (by a large margin) it becomes to properly and reliably ghost back to the VP. I am worried about Organic Perspective. I can draw the box. If I am looking at it from a 0 degree angle head on, I can rotate it. The issue comes when I am trying to rotate it in 3d space - I don't feel as if I have much control over how it is going to rotate when I draw the box. The same goes for my Rotated Boxes - both submissions. I feel like I am under-rotating and additionally am having trouble drawing boxes past a certain degree. As I am sure you can see, my circles are sort of wobbly & inconsistent - does an improvement come with time, or should I put some more time into dedicated practice to fix the issue?

3:22 AM, Thursday July 27th 2023

Overall really good job on improving. I'd like to push you into the 250 box challenge now because I think that exercise will refine any of your current struggles in a way that is more clear than in lesson 1 exercises. I think alot of your concerns are good indicators that are definitely going to improve with mileage. Make sure you are warming up occaisionally with an exercise with ellipses to help you practice them, but ellipses are definitely something that requires mileage to see improvement. Feel free to post your warm up pages to lesson 1 channel if you want critique too.

I think you're concerned so much about rotating in an exercise that only wants you to focus on one VP in your rough perspective. Your parallel lines are much more straight and the correcting and ghosting you did really shows, even though you struggled to hit that VP on the horizon line, you got much closer and less erratic than your first attempt.

The lines themselves look a bit small, but I think show good confidence and you've drawn them once, nothing I could call chicken scratching at all.

Your rotated boxes quadrant, you're right that you've struggled to rotate them, but it's a very difficult exercise on purpose that you're expected to struggle the most with. Your lines in rotated boxes you've added line weight/ redrawn lines that don't help your drawing, it's better to attempt a line once and leave it than to redraw it again if it goes against your drawing. There is a place for selectively adding line weight with an additional stroke in 250 boxes however, which I recommend you practice even if it's not compulsory, it will help you greatly in your accuracy and in establishing the form. https://drawabox.com/lesson/250boxes/1/lineweight

The entirety of 250 boxes focuses on rotation, and will give you the tools and ability to check after each page exactly how you can do the next one better. All that's asked is you try your best and it's really great because I can already tell you're going to push the limits of rotation, scope and experiment with different boxes. At the start it will be hard. Post a page (or every page if you like) in the discord #basic_challenges often to get feedback when you can, some people don't 'get it' in 250 boxes until further down the line so don't be discouraged early on.

Scylla (that video I linked you on rough perspective) has some videos of her doing the 250 box challenge that I found useful if you wanted more examples after going through the Challenge videos and articles, but I think your self awareness and curiosity will serve you very well in improving.

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Move onto 250 boxes! Congratulations!

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