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Juanmilon in the post "Lesson 7: Drawing Vehicles"

2017-08-30 16:51

Hi Uncomfortable, here's my entry for the last DS lesson:

First part: http://imgur.com/a/DNB7G

Second part: http://imgur.com/a/Zc6M4

Appart from your comments for those, I wanted to bring forward a couple questions and observations.

I feel like the most difficult thing in all of it was that, when creating your constructions it is very easy to commit errors, even if you are trying and thinking that you are plotting your lines perfectly, you need to watch out and check from time to time what you are producing, and not get caught in the proccess or you might end up dragging those errors to the final drawing. Damn, that is hard.

I used to try to work my construction perfectly and work out everything like mirroring stuff, etc, when I could get away with just eyeballing stuff, and saving some lines that if I put in migth only serve to add more noise to what is already there. I think I'm learning to discern more what lines are important to get in place and which ones I can sort of skip. It feels like to keep adding lines after a point its completely useless. What I used to do last year after a point in my drawing, (as I was studying Scott Robertson's stuff) was just trace over the drawing on a new sheat of paper. I suppose its the right thing to do if you get to the point where you muddled the drawing too much, but man, that is tedious, and sometimes I did a drawing and I ended up with like 5 pages for drawing a sausage with wings, or whatever.

Question #1: I wonder if you work in this sort of way, and up to what point is it common to end up with this kind of multi page drawings... Am I over working out stuff???

A point that you made about my previous stuff was about not being so heavy on my linework using markers and stick to the fineliner when posible. Its so hard for me to get a good range of thickness with the fineliner... sometimes, when it starts emptying a bit its easier, but when its full, I just feel like its not enough, specially when I try it in just one stroke. To get a good range it feels unavoidable to have to go back over the line 2 or 3 times and add thickness to the sides. I am afraid that if I try to make a thick line I need to push too much and I fear it might destroy my pen in a short term...

Question #2: Is that wrong? Up to what point should we try to push... I'm just curious about what range of thicknesses can you personally get out of a fineliner... Could you show me an example of the range that you can get out of a 0.5 pen to see to what should I aim for???

Thanks for your help, I look forward to your feedback.

Juanmilon in the post "25 Texture Challenge"

2017-08-15 06:48

Thanks for the feedback, I'm gonna give another try to that #4 texture. I suppose partly it was that I was still figuring out how I was supposed to do it and relied on the good old . Let me take another stab at it. The fish scales (#25)... I don't know, the scratches they had, it was more subtle and maybe I abused that detail. And it was more like white scratches on a darker surface. If you would like to look at my reference: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/99/55/92/99559231f472b2d556dcb433de53864c.jpg

Juanmilon in the post "25 Texture Challenge"

2017-08-14 08:47

Hi Uncomfortable, I just finished this challenge, I look forward to your feedback, sir. This shit was hard.

http://imgur.com/a/sus10

Juanmilon in the post "Lesson 6: Drawing Everyday Objects"

2017-08-10 05:20

I have a super heavy hand, I think I have seen some improvement on that thanks to struggling to not to kill the fineliners too soon. I'll do my best to control lineweight better and use the same pen for everything.

Thanks for the demo, I was thinking of the same aproach but I jumped straight to the sections... Using that polygonal shape as scafolding sure helps a lot.

Thanks for the feedback.

I really like the course, I mean, there's some more techniques that you could emphasize some more (ie, mirroring curves, how to construct bevels, curve combos, etc) But I don't know, maybe if you put that information it might be too early... or send people down rabbit holes to get lost...

It would be cool to have another lesson on the advanced topics about this kind of techniques, but I feel that you still can do a lot without them.

For example for planes (sky sausages), being able to mirror the wings is very important and it's easy to screw up and have it looking weird because wings are also long and they can end up entering in the zone where perspective starts to distort.

Sorry for going on a tangent. My point is, it is nice that the course doesn't go super deep, since people normally rush to the end, its good to leave out some shit that is not so useful normally (until you really know what you are doing). It would be nice in the end of the dynamic sketch you said something like "you can do almost everything with this plus visualizing, but now, here are some other more, extended, advanced lessons and challenges, the road still goes on". I don't know, maybe such advanced topics could go even after lesson 15, so you've have time to let the previous more fundamental techniques sink in.

Anyway, there some room for improvement, but good job with the lessons.

Juanmilon in the post "Lesson 6: Drawing Everyday Objects"

2017-08-08 14:06

Hi Uncomfortable, this are the drawings I made for this lesson: http://imgur.com/a/M7DDo. I found particularly difficult to draw the objects that had smoother non obvious shapes like this iron : http://imgur.com/PTlhbLs and this bottle/can http://imgur.com/IIc9dLW.

For the iron and some other stuff I caught myself constructing stuff using some symetry and curves much like Scott Robertson uses in its books. , but I don't know if you would have some sugestion to decompose that in simpler shapes (some polygonal shape maybe?? ). I don't know, doing it with curves felt natural, but its something hard since immediatly you have the page filled with construction stuff and it's hard to tell things appart. I don't know, maybe this kind of object was beside the point for this lesson. And for the other bottle/can (I don't know what to call it)... I started drawing some curves, same as with the iron, to base myself upon but in the end I found the easiest way for me was just to visualize some sections and then join them much like with branches, is there another way to do something like that type (ie, a rounded cube becoming a cylinder) without going crazy?

Thanks for your feedback.

Juanmilon in the post "Lesson 5: Drawing Animals"

2017-08-02 05:00

Thanks for the feedback, I take note on the ellipse thing... I keep on practicing them each day, but I suppose I don't do well the organic shapes intersection, I still do that without drawing over my ellipses and as I'm not used to it I'm doing it wrong on the animals too when I apply that exercise.

I'll do my best for lesson 6 and 7. I tried drawing vehicles last year with Robertsons book but man, that was hard. I always drew on pencil and tracing over stuff and all and even with the oportunity to correct it was super hard.

Juanmilon in the post "Lesson 5: Drawing Animals"

2017-08-01 17:01

Hi, here's the things I have made for this lesson during the past couple of weeks. I'm also working on the texture assignment but I still need some more time to finish :(

I hope you like it. I find specially hard to do the torsos. I have seen people before dividing them in hips, belly and ribcage together, and shoulders (for example in horses the so called tombstone) instead of two (hips and ribcage) and them attaching the belly as a different mass. What do you think of that?

Here's my stuff:

http://imgur.com/a/pakpI

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Juanmilon in the post "Lesson 4: Drawing Insects and Arachnids"

2017-07-21 05:17

Thanks a lot for the critique, I will be careful with my crosshatching and be sure to keep going with the texture challenge to see if I get the point with textures.

Juanmilon in the post "Lesson 4: Drawing Insects and Arachnids"

2017-07-20 15:22

Hi, here's my work for this lesson so far:

http://imgur.com/a/FIWRE

Please tell me what can I do to get better or if there's anything that is lacking so I can work at it.

Juanmilon in the post "Lesson 3: Drawing Plants"

2017-07-13 06:30

Thanks so much for the critique, I am trying to improve on these points! Specially trying to have all my drawings at least using like half a page.

Juanmilon in the post "Lesson 3: Drawing Plants"

2017-07-03 08:55

Sensei, here's my stuff for lesson 3, hope you like it. I think I am improving vastly thanks to your feedback. Maybe 70 per cent of this drawings are from life, that's part of the reason why some of them are shaky... the shrooms and the roses are from photographs and I made them last, that's why they came up cleaner. Thanks!

http://imgur.com/a/wQFiE

Juanmilon in the post "Lesson 2: Organic Forms, Contour Lines, Dissections and Form Intersections"

2017-06-26 09:33

Hi, I completed the second lesson, http://imgur.com/a/ernXu

I think my weakest spot is textures :(

I need to practice those way more. Any advice on that front? Should I try the texture challenge? Do you know any books or tutorials on the subject?

Thanks in advance.

Juanmilon in the post "250 Cylinder Challenge"

2017-06-24 06:45

thanks to you for the critique

Juanmilon in the post "250 Cylinder Challenge"

2017-06-23 10:01

Here's my cylinder challenge: http://imgur.com/a/czL2o

Drawing ellipses freehand is so damn hard... I screwed up so many times, I discarded half of the cylinders I draw in a day sometimes, I keep working on my ellipses each day, hoping to get better and some day repeat this challenge without as much effort :(

Thanks in advance, sir.

Juanmilon in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes"

2017-06-22 20:39

Okay, I'll stick with the same pen then! Thanks so much for the help!

Juanmilon in the post "250 Box Challenge"

2017-06-22 20:38

Thanks so much for the feedback! when I do boxes in my warmups I'll be sure to check if they are fine. I'll send some stuff for the next challenge soon.

Juanmilon in the post "250 Box Challenge"

2017-06-20 10:51

Hi, here are my boxes http://imgur.com/a/XSRUf

Let me know what you think. The mistake I use to make the most is when two sides are very near (which would make them ALMOST paralell) I tend to make them completely parallel instead of being nuanced and make it just as it should be, almost parallel but not completely.

Another error I make is sometimes when the box I'm drawing is big the convergence of the opposite planes does not match up. I suppose it is a matter of not getting too close to the drawing so I can see the box as a whole when drawing. I try to be very careful in this situations now.

I used to draw super small, and near to the drawing when I was little (shyness I guess??), I knew it made me do a lot of mistakes, every time I drawed something big, but somehow I couldn't avoid it. Now I'm getting myself to draw in bigger sketchbooks taking the whole page at times, I think that helped me a lot, but still sometimes I get too focused on a part and disregard the rest.

Juanmilon in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes"

2017-06-20 10:22

Hi, thanks for the feedback.

The thing is, the boxes exercises I sent here are quite old. I did the box and cilinder challenges after finishing this ones that you see, I think I'm better now. Let me send the box challenge I completed to the box challenge thread, I would like to see if you think it worked.

Certainly I need to be more careful with my linework, I think the hairyness you talk about is specially apparent when I need to go over a line to give it weight. Maybe I should use a bigger tip size? Because adding pressure the difference it makes in line width doesn't seems to be enough.

I went through the rough perspective exercises checking my VPs. (check it out here: http://imgur.com/a/o5v9s)

I tend to do this thing sometimes, where I figure out one or two of the edges minding the VP, but then the next edge I go too parallel to the edges I drew before... I realized that making the 250 box challenge, and started taking it into account but, since these exercises are prior to then, no wonder they have the same mistake...

I gave some more tries to the rotated boxes exercise, what do you think, is it fine now?:

http://imgur.com/lUPQGHL

I think at first I was making the first few boxes (in the sides, up and down) too big and I wasn't giving myself enough space to draw the two inbetween.

Juanmilon in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes"

2017-06-16 08:37

Hi! This is my first submission for revision after supporting on patreon. I started giving this lessons a try by myself like three months ago, and since I'm still going on I thought I would try to make it official , join the community here and try to get the little badges.

Here's my homework for the first lesson, most of it from when I started, even though I had to repeat some stuff because I threw away a lot of the simpler exercises (I thougth there was no point on keeping them): http://imgur.com/a/YtzYQ?grid

I look forward to having your feedback, thanks.