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cheerann in the post "State of the Union - September vacation, and dealing with the overwhelming number of homework submissions"

2016-08-26 21:40

I feared this day would come, but you're seriously awesome for tackling this monster endeavor SOLO and for as long as you have and I can't thank you enough. The information and critiques are enormously invaluable especially to those who either aren't sure about art or lack the resources, and well, basically the entire art community.

I broke down the number of submissions from the spreadsheet roughly and a whopping 70% come from the first two lessons and the box challenge. And from that 70% about half is the first lesson alone. The third lesson has about 140 submissions and the fourth only has 89. The first two lessons and box challenge are more or less plug'n play being fairly straightforward. The shit gets real in the third lesson when you actually have to apply everything from the ground up.

So with that being said, what do you think about a peer review system? You gotta give a couple of 'critiques' before you can get one. The critiques are structured into a rubric format with either a pass/fail, or maybe on a number scale and you add it up to a passing grade, much like school. In fact, that self critiquing area on drawabox.com is pretty much a rubric already. That way you'd be virtually free from the first lesson at least and onto lessons that are more complex where your knowledge/critiques are better needed and less in volume. Granted a rubric doesn't feel as great as "Excellent work!" or as encouraging, but it should help combat the volume and any concern of the blind leading the blind, and it certainly doesn't hurt to have people further analyze the lessons and hopefully interact as well.

cheerann in the post "Lesson 4: Drawing Insects and Arachnids"

2016-07-28 17:36

Ahh gotcha! I mean it feels wrong not to put anything, but the form itself is smooth, so that makes sense. Thanks!

cheerann in the post "Lesson 4: Drawing Insects and Arachnids"

2016-07-28 16:59

I'm glad to hear it. I've actually been drawing pretty consistently despite my absence. Something like a box a day, I heard it was good for you.

Yeah, I tried not to hatch, but when the surface was smooth I didn't know how else to do it. Would it be better to leave it alone instead?

I've seen those demos, they're super helpful. As well as looking at other critiques. Haha, I was super mindful of drawing through the ellipses, but it was probably towards the end that I let some slip. Thanks!

cheerann in the post "Lesson 4: Drawing Insects and Arachnids"

2016-07-27 17:12

Took a while, but here is my homework. I can't say it's easier than plants because those smooth textures are difficult to represent, but having actual volume and not just planes is a little more exciting. Still making stray marks, it's usually when I'm trying to correct proportions that go super wonky. Something about drawing large and I second guess myself and there goes my proportions, despite planning it out beforehand. Also a lot of the insect legs look clunky and generic, they're just so skinny!

cheerann in the post "Lesson 3: Drawing Plants (version 3)"

2015-11-04 22:03

Okay, will do that. Thanks!

cheerann in the post "Lesson 3: Drawing Plants (version 3)"

2015-11-04 10:07

Bigger=better? Fair enough, I can see what you mean after comparing my lines with other peoples how thick everything is/was. So I have a pretty bad habit of drawing small I realized, it took a lot of effort to draw big. I also think my previous drawings were really heavy handed, so in these two I really focused on feather touch sensitivity.

cheerann in the post "Lesson 3: Drawing Plants (version 3)"

2015-11-01 08:08

Hello again! This lesson was challenging, but very fun to do. I did all the drawings from life, so it was a great experience going outside everyday to draw despite the mosquito bites. I feel like I draw so slow and time seems to move so fast lol, though a lot of my time was spent just observing and trying to figure out how to actually put it on paper. I had problems with foreshortening I tended to draw things longer than they should've been. Also I had the hardest time representing the spiral pattern with the ti leaf. In the beginning my lines were really sketchy and my drawings really small, though I tried to be mindful of confident lines and bigger drawings with the later ones.

cheerann in the post "Lesson 2: Organic Forms, Contour Lines, Dissections and Form Intersections (version 2)"

2015-07-05 23:44

I'm glad/relieved to hear that. I spent a lot of time trying to feel the forms, though sometimes I still feel like there's a gap. I think that just takes time and practice. About the ellipses, I'll admit to wanting things to be pretty. I will definitely draw through in the future, when I did it helped to imagine how rounded the surface actually is.

Ok cool. Reddit is great because I use the thread locking as a goal/deadline haha. Otherwise, I'm excited to see how Art Fundamentals evolves. It's come a long way from lessons here to a devoted site, which looks great btw.

Okay great! It is harder to control pressure, but I just wanted something handy, because you can find those everywhere. I'll still look into investing into better pens though. Thanks!

cheerann in the post "Lesson 2: Organic Forms, Contour Lines, Dissections and Form Intersections (version 2)"

2015-07-05 05:15

Here is my homework. It actually took me 2 months. The dissections terrified the crap out of me so much that I just drifted away. I turned into a lurker and saw all the lessons coming out and not really caring that this thread would be locked in a few months. One day though I was drawing some still life and had a hard time with the plane or ellipse of something. After finally getting it right, I couldn't find my lines! Lol, I realized then the importance of ghosting and especially lesson 1. Also just drawing in general, it's impossible to progress beyond thumbnails if you avoid detail. Pretty much no matter where I tried to go with drawing, I couldn't escape the importance of these lessons. So in a pretty roundabout way, I came back with a new found attitude and appreciation. Thank you!

When these threads lock will you just re-post a new thread? Or have you figured out a system entirely on your site already? Been a while since I read comments regarding the future of drawabox.

Looking ahead to lesson 3, regarding pens, would an ultra fine sharpie be okay? I think it's a little thick, but the tip seems the same...

cheerann in the post "250 Box Challenge (#2)"

2015-03-31 08:44

Okay thank you!

cheerann in the post "250 Box Challenge (#2)"

2015-03-30 12:44

Hi again! It's been awhile since I finished the 250 box challenge, but I haven't uploaded it til today. I've been having fun learning form intersections. Here are my boxes. The second page of boxes #51-89 I went over with a sharpie that started out dry and proceeded to bleed. So that's why the lines might look funky. I would've done all the pages like that, but I think it blinded me to the errors because the boxes looked so much prettier.