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Zefhus in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes"

2017-06-12 00:56

Okay, I'll try drawing a lot of boxes then. Thanks!

Zefhus in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes"

2017-06-12 00:30

Thank you. So should I do the other box exercises from lesson 1 again or just start drawing a lot of boxes for the 250 box challenge? I mean - they are pretty much the same as the last exercise from lesson 1. Oh, and I didn't draw through the boxes because I thought that wasn't part of the exercise yet.

The ghosting method for the boxes is something that feels really unnatural to me, which is why I'm having problems. When I put down start and ending points I can hit them pretty well (more or less). But for the boxes I suck at anticipating where the lines should end.

So I either don't draw the ending point and get the wobbly line, or I draw the ending point, but set it too far away or too close. And then I get those boxes with the weird proportions. I'm really unsure how long a line has to be, so that the line adjacent to it stops right where they meet.

Also - I've been trying to use the Y-method for drawing the boxes, but feel like that doesn't make me learn anything. Now instead of thinking about the perspective I'm thinking like an algorithm:

1) Draw Y

2) Draw parallel lines from bottom of Y

3) Draw next set of parallel lines

....

So, yeah. I have a lot to learn still and I also find it weird that these boxes are so much worse than the ones I did a few months ago. Your note definitely helps, but maybe you have some other tips with this new information.

Zefhus in the post "Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes"

2017-06-10 08:16

I finally got around to re-doing lesson 1. I noticed that I pretty much un-learned everything by not drawing for half a year, so I'm looking forward to your critique.

http://imgur.com/a/UBTFB

I'm somehow having a lot of trouble with the boxes. I can't for the life of me anticipate where the lines are supposed to end - and then they come out with uneven sides and wobbly.

Zefhus in the post "Lesson 2: Organic Forms, Contour Lines, Dissections and Form Intersections"

2016-11-22 13:18

Thank you for the detailed critique. I expected a lot of what you said, but I'm also a bit disheartened since you saw the main problems with some things I thought were pretty good (mainly the organic intersections looked fine to me). Guess I just don't have a feeling for drawing yet.

Anyway - I'll practice what you said for a few days now and then come back to the exercises. Still having a very hard time 'seeing' the 3D space. I hope that's something that just comes to me if I practice long enough.

Thank you!

Zefhus in the post "Lesson 2: Organic Forms, Contour Lines, Dissections and Form Intersections"

2016-11-21 13:58

So, here's my homework:

http://imgur.com/a/UZXdO

I'll just post it without any commentary this time. Looking forward to the critique!

Zefhus in the post "Lesson 2: Organic Forms, Contour Lines, Dissections and Form Intersections"

2016-11-20 10:20

Okay, thank you.

Zefhus in the post "Lesson 2: Organic Forms, Contour Lines, Dissections and Form Intersections"

2016-11-20 01:25

Okay, I'll try to get behind them a bit more then.

I really don't see anything when a shape is on top of another and don't know where to start drawing the intersection at all. I've tried it a few times so far and all it does is make everything look confusing.

I don't really want to bring such chaos into the drawings I have thus far since I really wanted some feedback on the shapes themselves when I'm done.

Zefhus in the post "Lesson 2: Organic Forms, Contour Lines, Dissections and Form Intersections"

2016-11-19 18:23

If I just don't 'see' the intersections at exercise 3 - should I basically ignore them for now? I know you've said that it's not that important and to only 'try' drawing them in, but I know you'll comment on them missing, so I'll just ask beforehand.

I've been staring for quite a while at a drawing of two boxes now and I'm trying to see the intersection, but I just don't. I see it with cones going through boxes, but a box through a box... I don't see anything.

Zefhus in the post "250 Box Challenge"

2016-11-15 00:10

Thanks, I guess I'm a bit too critical with myself. I'll move on to the second lesson then. I'm really curious to see how I'm able to handle it since it looked pretty hard when glancing over it a few days ago.

Zefhus in the post "250 Box Challenge"

2016-11-13 16:44

I swear I took my time with these and tried my best, even if they don't look like it at all.

http://imgur.com/a/XqkXp

I'm pretty disappointed with myself to be honest. I don't see much improvement and I just don't really see the 3D space. I've been doing these according to your video, but I can't estimate where the lines are going to cross for the life of me. Then I tried correcting but they seemed beyond salvageable, so I stopped because the markings make it very hard to see the original.

I definitely want to keep doing some more boxes before moving on, because I feel like my brain just doesn't 'get it'. But it would be nice to have some feedback on what I should be focussing on for the next ones.