number-9-dream in the post "Lesson 2: Organic Forms, Contour Lines, Dissections and Form Intersections"
2016-05-23 02:25
You are right that I'm not the most patient person in the world, but I want to say that the mistakes here were not due to rushing.... I spent well over 20 hours on this and tried to read every bit of guiding info I could find/looked at a ton of other peoples submissions.
You're totally right about the arrows, I thought they were more or less an 'afterthought' and just to indicate the direction, I only spent time on the ribbon part. Funny enough I think the ribbons were almost the only line weight I did try to ghost (and obviously failed and then tried to fix it etc). I'll work on it.
The shadowing was not an attempt at improving anything, it was simply something I did while taking a break, in the future I'll do that on a separate paper.
Could you elaborate a bit on what's going wrong in the form intersections? I was trying to keep in mind to use shallow foreshortening literally every time I drew something, but I think my 'baseline' idea of what is shallow and what is deep must be very off.
It looks 'correct' to me (I'm not trying to say it is correct just that my brain doesn't catch what is wrong), is there a way of 'checking my work' so to speak? I find I generally understand what's going wrong better that way.
I'll try to really reign it in for my next attempt.
I actually didn't find these exercises boring at all (unlike the 250 boxes one), and I'm not sure where you mean I mixed exercises, as far as I can tell none of them are mixing anything (except the aforementioned shading, but shading wasn't part of this lesson)? Was the shading the only one or did I inadvertently mix things up anywhere else?
I'll re-do the lesson now, thanks for your time.
EDIT: Ah! The frog and the mountain in the dissection exercise, right? I'll cut those out - they both stemmed from the texture not reading well at all and me over-working them. The pages with texture swatches are fine tho right? I saw someone else use them and you said it was a good idea to help with the exercise which is one of the reasons I included them.
number-9-dream in the post "Lesson 2: Organic Forms, Contour Lines, Dissections and Form Intersections"
2016-05-22 16:56
Hi, finished lesson 2 at a much more reasonable pace than the first, it was quite fun (though a lot of the textures I attempted I still honestly do not understand at all, but looking at how some of the better entries solved things has been helpful).
A question about line-weight: when adding it, should we be ghosting still (I generally didn't ghost when going back and adding line weight except for some circular shapes I think)?
I felt like when I already have a line to follow my brain doesnt do as much of that whole course-correction business, but maybe that's wrong, if so let me know.
I decided to focus on mostly boxes in the beginning of the intersection exercise to keep it simple, and added a pure cylinder/sphere one at the end.
Certain angles of sphere intersections were a bit tricky for me (as you can probably tell).
I included some of my early attempts/texture explorations etc, let me know if you'd prefer that I stick to just the assigned minimum in the future.
Thanks in advance!
number-9-dream in the post "Lesson 5: Drawing Animals"
2016-05-11 17:01
Ahh, I apologize, I misunderstood the text at the bottom of the lesson about submitting for critique.
I have done all the lessons, just didn't submit any of them (though I think I insisted on doing some of the first one digitally because I'm a stubborn idiot, but I'll re-do whatever I did digitally on paper). I'll dig through my papers and submit them in proper order over the coming days.
Thanks for the link as well, I had only seen the first two.
number-9-dream in the post "Lesson 5: Drawing Animals"
2016-05-11 15:01
Hi, first one I felt I wanted some critique on, although I'm probably going to do it again eventually regardless of whether I "need to" or not, it was really fun.
Some self-crit:
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Still too sketchy. Before these lessons (that is, lesson 1) I hadn't used anything except mechanical pencil or digital for a really long time and it's a hard habit to break apparently. A few of the later ones I think got cleaner.
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Over-rendering fur. Overall rendering feels like a weak point, but I did notice that the times where I restrained myself the results were better.
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I drew up a crude skeleton of each animal to get an idea of how their limbs worked, but I kind of ended up confusing myself by letting this lead to drawing smaller construction spheres for the hind quarters. I realized this mistake and the later ones correct it a little bit. It also seemed to cause me to massively overestimate how long animals necks are (which hasn't usually been an issue for me in my own drawings).
I'm not really sure what do with muscles and protrusions in the middle of fur (like shoulders or hind legs on horses).
Anyway, just wanted to say a quick thank you for being so insistent on what drawing utensils we were to use. I'll admit that I was initially skeptical, but after accepting that maybe this guy with a ton of experience possibly knows better than my beginner self, I quickly felt the value of using a new/different tool, even when doing some of the exercises digitally as well. So yeah, just thank you for that. I also didn't realize how fun it was to draw with something so much more permanent than a mechanical graphite pencil or digital.
number-9-dream in the post "Lesson 2: Organic Forms, Contour Lines, Dissections and Form Intersections"
2016-05-23 17:25
I did not mean to come off as defending anything, all your criticism is perfectly valid and if 20 hours still creates rushed work for me then I suppose I'll just have to keep on working until it doesn't.