mandel1on in the post "Trouble visualizing 3D has made this near-impossible. Now what?"
2023-06-24 18:40
It was still a good read! I definitely don't want to dismiss that fact.
I'm actually pretty confident in my ability to tell what's wrong! I'm a pretty experienced artist, and trying to do some troubleshooting and muscle memory by doing DAB (which is how I figured out that these things were a problem to start with. People don't seem to believe my experience based on my results and the questions I ask, but my knowledge is good - it's just that my eyes or hand or something won't cooperate, and I can't figure out how to fix it. It's been some time since this initial post so I may be repeating myself, but my actual knowledge just doesn't come out on the page).
I made a separate post on the DAB website, but I'm on the rough perspective homework, and I think that outlines the problem better than I have here; linking it because I think it tackles some of the suggestions you've made here already.
mandel1on in the post "Trouble visualizing 3D has made this near-impossible. Now what?"
2023-06-24 16:58
Great insight! Problem is, I know things are made of boxes / etc - I just cant draw the boxes right to start with. These hard / straight forms are much easier for me to break down and make sense of, but actually drawing them is another issue.
mandel1on in the post "Trouble visualizing 3D has made this near-impossible. Now what?"
2023-06-20 18:39
Thank you!
mandel1on in the post "Trouble visualizing 3D has made this near-impossible. Now what?"
2023-06-20 18:22
Hmm, let me see if I can explain in better detail.
I was told to do Draw A Box to assist with a larger issue with fundamentals, though these are things I have some experience in already. The earlier exercises such as ghosted lines and planes came out - if not perfect, then pretty okay, without many glaring issues. Ellipses, funnels, and boxes themselves have come out very poorly, however.
Using an example outside of DAB, when I try to draw a person or animal, I know in theory what the proportions should be, but once they're on paper, they always appear incorrect to me, even if I've made corrections for what I think is the flaw.
For DAB exercises, I'm seeing things like my boxes not looking like boxes so much as rectangular prisms, and have struggled with following the perspective, even though I'm making a very deliberate and conscious effort to do so. Similarly, I can't fit my ellipses into the "waves" very well at all. It's true that I'm not very far into the course, but have practiced similar things in the past and am noticing not much change from then at all.
Would approaching it from a spatial reasoning perspective instead be better, and are there further resources for that?
mandel1on in the post "Trouble visualizing 3D has made this near-impossible. Now what?"
2023-06-24 19:06
First thing for sure.
I think this was also in the original post here, but it extends to things like body proportions - I know how long the limbs should be, but they always look incorrect to me. Any correction I make also looks incorrect. This extends to spheres, and things like placing the facial features (the other eye and the shape of the head, for example - actually what I started going extremely hard on studying before DAB, and why I picked it up).