Uncomfortable's Advice from /r/ArtFundamentals

I dont understand how Im supposed to use the second vanishing point in the rotated boxes exercise, how am I supposed to know where they will end up?

https://i.redd.it/4mi6wvcfi2791.jpg

2022-06-22 00:33

romulus-and_ringulus

Uncomfortable

2022-06-22 04:21

The key is not to worry about the vanishing points, but rather to focus on the neighbouring boxes/edges as demonstrated in this diagram.

Fluffy-931Ant

2022-06-22 16:59

Source for this!?

[deleted]

2022-06-22 18:06

His source is that he is The Guy.

Edit: and thanks u/Uncomfortable for commenting and clarifying this question.

Fluffy-931Ant

2022-06-22 18:15

The Guy? Is he some kind of online tutor?

[deleted]

2022-06-22 18:22

Some kind, yes.

Fluffy-931Ant

2022-06-22 18:33

Sorry if it came out wrong.

Just trying to find resources to learn better. I cannot make straight lines

Though enjoy creating wiggly perspectives

[deleted]

2022-06-22 19:05

No worries man you're just asking questions. He's the creator of DrawABox, I believe, as well as this subreddit's sole moderator. He's an absolute legend and a gem and we all owe him a great deal for the time and effort he puts into this community.

Fluffy-931Ant

2022-06-22 18:34

Any links to him? Google is sending me to Ryan Reynolds FREE GUY

langleyrenee

2022-06-22 18:46

Could not have put it better. He is indeed THAT The Guy.

Uncomfortable

2022-06-22 21:48

Hah- it does seem like you've gotten your answer, though just to state it myself, the question OP is asking pertains to an exercise in the course that I created, which you'll find on drawabox.com. This subreddit as a whole is reserved for those working through the course (which itself started many years ago on this subreddit, before developing into its own website and community).

You can read more about that here.

TheAhegaoHoodie

2022-06-22 07:37

Thats the fun part, you dont you just guess, and once youve guessed enough you begin to understand it better so, you eventually can begin to draw any kind of box at any angle

[deleted]

2022-06-22 08:19

It was kinda mind blowing to me when I realised that placing vanishing points is often more about deciding than knowing.

happyrosemary

2022-06-22 09:33

Each vanishing point irradiates lines in all directions. If you are working with 2 vp, you must draw their lines and see where they intercept. I humbly think some of the other comments are wrong, as you dont purely guess the position.

Edit: something like this

Edit 2: my bad, you are working with ROTATED boxes. Then I dont know whats the criteria. Anyway leaving the comment as it might help someone (?)

butter_waxx

2022-06-22 11:36

How I do it is I keep practicing drawing squares whose tapers intersect far away, sure you can extend the canvas so you check at which point they'll meet, but if we're limited with the canvas size, figuring out the perspective by guessing is ideal.

Each box has their own vanishing points, yes, and it's you who will decide how you rotate the box, its kind of like playing boxes in blender and rotating them to form a circle.

One way to do it is to choose the angle of the bottom line, then build the squares from there

KDee14

2022-06-22 12:04

It looks like you have drawn the side of the box instead of the front. As the boxes rotate further away from the viewer the front plane of the box will appear to shrink and youll see more of the side of the box until it becomes a straight line on the sides. You only need one vanishing point (this is from my experience), and thats the middle VP, but it can guide. I suggest you find a reference (google rotating box drawing exercise) because Im sure I have got some thing wrong, and its very hard to imagine it. Hope that helps.

NothingCanStopMemes

2022-06-22 17:17

Its just spherical perspective approximated with lines

Uncomfortable

2022-06-22 23:21

Unfortunately that is not accurate. This exercise attempts to drive home the point that there are many vanishing points, one for every set of parallel lines. Spherical perspective still attempts to capture objects that align to a set grid (just as 3/2/1 point perspective do), while also accounting for lens distortion.

What we're doing here is considering the fact that the world does not exist on a perfect grid, with objects being at a wider variety of possible alignments.

Although I should clarify that it merely serves to make that point - not to actually help students improve in dealing with it. Once the point is made, here and in the organic perspective exercise that follows, we then explore handling a greater variety of vanishing points through the box challenge and onwards through the rest of the course.