Uncomfortable's Advice from /r/ArtFundamentals

Perspective

https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtFundamentals/comments/sawafh/perspective/

2022-01-23 15:39

-kaiz

How do you draw when the vanishing point is outside the page. Im having hard time on understanding that.

Ace-Preformance

2022-01-23 17:45

If it's digital, shrink the whole thing down so the vanishing points are on the canvas. Rough it in enough that you have a good idea where all the furniture etc is, then make it larger, hiding the vanishing points.

If its traditional, I use green painters tape to extend the horizon line outward on the table, so I can place the vanishing points.

Hope this helps!

Uncomfortable

2022-01-24 00:03

It comes down to what a vanishing point is. The VP is the point to which all edges that run parallel to one another in 3D space converge to when drawn as lines on a flat page.

This also means that any lines meant to represent a set of parallel edges will together imply their vanishing point, given that they're all pointing towards it (even if it's way off the page, or simply not drawn). So, as long as you have two lines converging, you can add as many more to that set, by paying attention to how they angle towards one another and following the same pattern.

While the concept is quite simple, it's difficult to apply. That's why it's such a major focus of this course. While we start with basic 2 point perspective in the plotted perspective exercise, we immediately start stripping away these dependencies by eyeballing convergences to a defined VP in the rough perspective exercise, and ultimate trying to construct arbitrarily rotated boxes and checking their convergences afterwards throughout the 250 box challenge.

Then, much later into the course, we look at constricting geometric objects like complex vehicles in Lesson 7 by applying the same principles once our core grasp of 3D space is more fleshed out.

That said, you can look up the concept called a "Brewer Grid" - though again, it's one thing to understand it on a logical level, but requires more development of one's spatial reasoning skills to apply it effectively.

Brettinabox

2022-01-24 06:19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd7LNfWOjiM This is the answer, although I have never quite understood it myself. I know how important it is though because so many drawings will be done without visually seeing the VP.