Uncomfortable's Advice from /r/ArtFundamentals

Lesson 14: Composition

http://drawabox.com/lesson/14

2016-11-24 18:19

Uncomfortable

Uncomfortable

2016-11-24 18:41

Old thread got locked, patreon supporters can post their homework here.

smashedpixie

2016-11-24 18:46

Hello. Here it is http://imgur.com/a/8MXax . Finding proper shapes was so uncertain for me. Not sure I applied method right though. Turns out I always started with rough same pattern of huge masses and through blending, changing eventually cling by something. 10th was unbearable, I hope you let off it.

Uncomfortable

2016-11-24 20:24

Your studies are quite well done. I like the variation in the types of shots you chose, and your general value structure is definitely coming along nicely. There's one thing that I did notice though that I think will help you in the long term.

When it comes to composition and breaking things into values, it's important to break out of the habit of thinking of everything as being enclosed objects. I'm noticing that you tend to have very strong borders between the objects in your scene - don't be afraid to let the values of the surrounding environment bleed into a form where you feel certain values on it are more similar to those in the background than they are to other areas within it.

A sort of example where you did a good job with this idea is the top left on the second sheet of studies. Clarisse's face is mostly bleeding into shadow, with very little definition, and because of that, the part that is clearly defined with a lighter value feels that much more striking. Having the silhouette of an object stand out clearly is a tool - it's going to bring that object a lot of focus, so if something isn't part of a focal point, you may not want to give it so much importance.

Your thumbnail sketches are coming along well too - the only thing that stands out to me is that you seem to be a little afraid to dig really deep into the darks, so your value range tends to be a bit more limited and compressed. I think this happens more as you get deeper into your thumbnails, so it's probably something you need to think about more (and that you probably do think about, but that you might be getting sloppy with as you get tired). Also, play more with super foreground objects - think of them as things so close to the camera that the appear so large that they barely clip the frame. Most of the object would exist outside of the frame, you just want something there to help draw the viewer into the situation.

Anyway, keep up the great work and consider this lesson complete.

smashedpixie

2016-11-25 17:01

Thank you for this lesson. I really should try out bleeding objects with scene and use more value range, foreground as well. Yet the hugest void is an imagination in all senses. I am keen on filling that gap, do you recommend photo studies? And this is probably about practise alot. I am just looking for how you've gone through it and what you can recommend.

Uncomfortable

2016-11-25 19:07

Imagination is the combination of things you've studied and that you're intimately familiar with, in interesting ways. Right now you haven't studied much, so you don't have a lot to work with, so you're right - the solution is to practice a lot, and film and photo studies will help a lot. You need to give yourself the time and opportunity to fill in the gaps in your visual library. Don't think of these things as voids or failures, like something you should have done but didn't. They're things you haven't done yet.

Tarrazan

2016-12-23 02:19

Your threads for lesson 11 and 12 have both been archived so i'm sorry if this is bothering you. But here is my homework for lesson 11 ( again). I will of course repost it when you create a new post for the lessons.

http://imgur.com/a/gQz05

I've followed your advice and the lessons on drawabox closely for this one, like you told me to do, and i feel like it's definitely visible. I've really tried wrapping my lines around the form and not just plotting them where i saw them fit. I now there's still a big difference between the good drawings and the bad drawings, both in proportions and just the overall drawing. But for everyday i draw i certainly feel like i'm getting better.

Uncomfortable

2016-12-24 20:22

There's some improvement, but there's still a lot of those arbitrary details that you've put down with no real grasp of the muscle forms that would produce them. Also, I noticed that you generally half-ass your hands and feet - even if you're not confident with them, push yourself to draw the figure to completion. The only way you'll improve at something is by pushing through it.

I also noticed that with your more obese figures, and breasts as well, the forms stop following any kind of real structure and end up reading fairly flatly.

Today I uploaded a rewrite of Lesson 8 with more demo videos and an intro lecture video as well. It'll take a lot of time for me to rewrite all of the figure drawing lessons, but I think you should try to start over from there.

Tarrazan

2016-12-24 20:43

I will start over from lesson eight then :D

I gotta admit though, that it feels really defeating for me and like i'm not progressing at all. I know that it's part of the proces, but it's still hard. I'll muster through anyway though, i'm going to finish these lessons wheater it takes me 6 months og 6 years.