A demo I did for a student about the importance of using simple forms when trying to convey solidity
http://i.imgur.com/i3rNOm9.jpg
2016-11-07 23:34
Uncomfortable
MrQwertyXoid
2016-11-08 08:52
I actually like it a lot when sketches are made without pressure control, just a solid line. A lot of chinese artists do these sketches and make wonders with it. But I'm offtopic, very nice explanation!
Uncomfortable
2016-11-08 13:52
You've got me all curious now - could you share a few examples of this style? It's be interesting to see ways that more uniform linework can be used. Although come to think of it, I have seen some oekaki-board work that might fit your description.
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2016-11-08 16:21
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Uncomfortable
2016-11-08 16:44
Interesting example - though I agree, there is a fair bit of line weight variation. The lines are quite dynamic.
MrQwertyXoid
2016-11-12 20:36
Hey, sorry for late answer.
I haven't found the sketches I was talking about sadly.
I was referring to things like these(one, two, three(Clearly pen pressure is on, but same style)), though it does seem that there's pressure control, it's minor. The sketches I was talking about, had small round brush with no pressure that looked extremely nice and fluid. Damn, now I just gotta find these sketches they were amazing :(
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2016-11-08 09:58
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Uncomfortable
2016-11-08 13:51
Oh I don't know about that - I think it varies considerably from subreddit to subreddit. Just gotta find the right niche.
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2016-11-09 01:18
Yeah theres no way a post about fundamentals by the owner of a subreddit called art fundamentals is going to get upvoted. You clearly don't browse any art subreddits to begin with if you think that.
Ultra_Bondage_Fairy
2016-11-08 10:30
Good little tutorial, although towards the end it does get quite confusing in the sense that it looks like you are adding detail rather than form.
Personally my preferred way of demonstrating form is to draw a sphere with a bulb/blob coming off it, emphasizing the connection between the two forms, and then comparing that to an outline of the shape.
Uncomfortable
2016-11-08 13:49
The last step is kind of superfluous, just there for the sake of completeness. Every step before that however focuses entirely on form/construction - things do get more detailed, but that's due to the fact that we're breaking things down into more and more specific forms. If you get a chance, I'd love to see an example of your approach, so I can better understand what you're describing there.
Ultra_Bondage_Fairy
2016-11-08 19:15
Sorry it's not that amazing, just woke up a few minutes ago. http://i.imgur.com/MTKZncr.jpg
I guess for me, I read Villpu when I was learning, and so now to explain the importance of form and conveying solidity (and how to demonstrate it), I think back to how I learnt it (which was more or less putting a sheet over simple forms)
Looking back on the main point of your tutorial though, I should have a picture of the simple forms I considered when drawing too, but 5am. But yeah, for me the main difference is having more than the outline.
Uncomfortable
2016-11-08 19:46
I see. Honestly, I think this particular approach demands a bit more skill - at least to me, it's clear that you are already able to visualize (or at least display a subconscious awareness of) the simpler forms that make up the more complex blobby mass. Ultimately I want my students to work up to that.
Great sense of form and line weight by the way!
Ultra_Bondage_Fairy
2016-11-08 20:05
Its not really an approach since I drew and then erased the lines that convey form haha.
But just generally I remember when I was learning I had a lot of issue with understanding what form beings to a picture and using form, drawing blobs on blobs helped a lot with understanding it.
Cheers, line weight had been a study topic of mine recently haha.
ideeeyut
2016-11-08 16:28
You mention pressure control on this. Are there any exercises for working on this? I'm going through the draw 250 boxes challenge and honestly the line weight/pressure really bothers how I view my boxes. I never feel like they look good.
Uncomfortable
2016-11-08 16:43
The choice of tool - that is, the felt tip pen - is geared towards forcing students to gradually come to grips with having to control the amount of pressure they use. When they start out, they'll naturally be going from 0 to full pressure with nothing in between, resulting in clunky looking linework. As they continue to push forwards, the nuance will begin to come out in little ways. It's a gradual thing, but any and all drawing with your felt tip pen will help. Furthermore, just being aware of the difference between uniform/dynamic lines will also push you in the right direction.
Uncomfortable
2016-11-08 13:39
Aww, you're makin' me blush.