250 Box Challenge

9:37 AM, Thursday June 1st 2023

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Hey! Sjoh, that was a journey. I went through frustration, patience, impatience, determination, etc. etc.

I have a question unrelated to this exercise, how can I make two submissions per month?


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8:07 PM, Thursday June 1st 2023
edited at 8:08 PM, Jun 1st 2023

Hi there, I'll be handling your box challenge critique.

Congratulations on completing the box challenge, it's definitely a lot more work than most people expect. Not only does it help deepen your understanding of important concepts but it shows your desire to learn as well. Be proud of what you've accomplished and that desire you've shown. That being said I'll try to keep this critique fairly brief so you can get working on the next steps as soon as possible.

Things you did well:

  • Your construction lines are looking smooth and confidently drawn.

  • Line weight isn't a requirement of the challenge so it's nice to see you're applying it anyways. Most people need to build up some mileage before they feel comfortable applying it so I always recommend starting early. The sooner you feel comfortable the sooner you see better results.

  • You're doing a great job of experimenting with orientations and rates of foreshortening. Experimenting is an important habit to build when learning any new skill, it helps form a more well rounded understanding. I hope you'll continue to display and nurture this habit in the future.

Things you can work on:

  • When hatching you want to have both ends of the lines touching an edge of the form they're being drawn on rather than being left floating. Usually when left floating like this it's caused by people hesitating while worrying about accuracy. Remember to take your time to space each line with the ghosting method, and then draw them confidently just like any other line, accuracy will improve with more mileage.

  • I'd like you to experiment with proportions more, mix in some longer/thinner/wider boxes more frequently to get more experience working with lines in different situations.

  • There are times when your lines converge in pairs or you attempt to keep your lines a bit too parallel which results in them diverging. This is an example of lines converging in pairs, and this shows the relation between each line in a set and their respective vanishing point. The inner pair of lines will be quite similar unless the box gets quite long and the outer pair can vary a lot depending on the location of the vanishing point. Move it further away and the lines become closer to parallel while moving it closer increases the rate of foreshortening.

The key things we want to remember from this exercise are that our lines should always converge as a set not in pairs, never diverge from the vanishing point and due to perspective they won't be completely parallel.

Overall while you did make a few mistakes your boxes are improving so far and with more mileage you'll continue to become more consistent. That being said I'll be marking your submission as complete and move you on to lesson 2.

Now to address your question. There is a 14 day waiting period between allowed submissions so once you get a submission marked as complete you can submit something again in 14 days as long as you have the credits to do so. Getting more credits is a matter of either waiting until the next month for your patreon subscrption to renew or to subscribe at a higher tier.

All of that being said I will say that your question is a little concerning, your goal shouldn't be to create multiple submissions in a month. If it happens naturally that's one thing but overall you should be taking as long as you need to in order to best absorb the course material, don't tie yourself to a timeline because you're more likely to burn out or disappoint yourself if you don't meet it. Rushing will also increase your likelyhood of receiving revisions which will also pressure a made up timeline even more.

If however you were just curious that's fine, but as I said don't make it the goal.

Anyways, keep practicing previous exercises and boxes as warm ups, and good luck with lesson 2.

Next Steps:

Move on to lesson 2.

This critique marks this lesson as complete.
edited at 8:08 PM, Jun 1st 2023
7:53 AM, Friday June 2nd 2023

Thanks Tofu! Really appreciate the feedback. I was not aware of the cross hatching touching so that is awesome to keep in mind for next exercises and will definitely keep all your critique in mind when practicing boxes.

Also, I really appreciate the advice you gave on rushing and I will take your advice and not keep speed of submissions in mind. All the challenges so far took longer than I expected because I really want to put effort into understanding the principles so I don't even think it would be possible for me to get tasks done every two weeks.

Thanks again, really appreciate. I will move on to lesson 2!

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