Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes

2:37 PM, Thursday October 15th 2020

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Done with all the lessons for lesson 1. I know i'm not that great at the ellipses so any advice there would be greatly appreciated. Also, I get a bit lost on the organic perspective. Theres some boxes that i feel like i get the concept and do really good then when i try to draw it a different way or at a different angle, I get a bit lost again. Any tips will be greatly appreciated.



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9:47 PM, Thursday October 15th 2020
edited at 9:48 PM, Oct 15th 2020

Hi, so the key with ellipses is really just to do them over and over again. With lesson 1 finished make sure to take some time before drawing each day to practice these exercises and you'll improve over time. You'll get more mileage out of each ellipse by drawing through once or twice. Don't worry about the organic perspective as its a difficult exercise that you're not expected to get right the 1st time. About turning boxes in space, it can be helpful to start with an "Y" to determine the 3 axes. This'll make it easier to plan your box the way you want it. Don't be afraid to reread the theory (often takes a few rereads to really get it) and you'll get more practice through the 250box challenge.

Next Steps:

Keep practicing those boxes by completing the 250box challenge

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edited at 9:48 PM, Oct 15th 2020
1:24 AM, Friday October 16th 2020

Thank you for the info! I am getting ready to start the 250 box challenge and I'm actually pretty excited about it. like you were saying I think continually practicing will hopefully make perfect...or at least better! I will definitely keep practicing. thanks again for the feedback!

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2:23 PM, Friday October 16th 2020


I'll add some critique to your work since you have done so for me. First, I just want you to know that I am also a noob, and from my previous work you can see that I've had some trouble on the boxes and elipses - be that as it may, I will do my best to give you the most objective critique I am capable of making.

With no furhter adue, we shalll begin:


* I'm very impressed that there are no wobbles in your lines and that they are very straight and to the point. There is some fraying at the ends, but I suppose that is to be expected. I don't have to say much about them because you have done a good job. I took notice of the plotted lines, that you used them to construct specific shapes and altered paths. I'm not certain HOW *perfect* the lines are supposed to be, but to probabaly reduce fraying, pretend you're pen is a sword and you're striking through an object. Again, your lines are very good and it's simply just the fraying of them (take what I say with a grain of salt as I frayed my crescent lines, ha ha).


* Your elipses are very neat and impressive as well. They have a good sense of space, weight, and balance. I can tell you had a ton of fun with them as well. Some, and very few, elipses do not touch another elipse in the table exercise. But that's an inconsistent mistake. You're spot on with all of them so far.

*  Funnels - You didn't have much fun with this one judging by the lack of elaborate designs (haha), but everything checked out as okay. Their snug, they fit within the funnels, the Y axis runs smoothly in the middle, and they're all the same. I didn't have to critique this one, but I just noticed it wasn't as creatively done as the others. I hate funnels myself.


* The Plotted perspective was really good, I don't see any issues. Just to note, there are less boxes in the final panel. That's about it. But the point is, you nailed this one and have a good sense of distance as well.The angled vanishing point was new and a style I didn't notice could be done. This gives a good sense of movement (rotation) and I can see where this style can be applied later on in the rotated boxes section.

*   Rough perspective - You drew through the boxes. Check. Lines are a tad bit arched in some, wobbly in others, and emboldened on most. Which is okay, but we want clean and confident lines for the boxes. Just a pet peeve, not the end of the world (I'm not perfect with this and have a lot to learn). Also, since we're plotting, it's to be expected that the lines are not THAT parallel (but the wobbliness isn't a symptom of that and possibly a byproduct).

* Rotated boxes - it's a circle. That's very impressive. It's also very clean, I can see through the boxes, and they indeed rotate. Uncomfortable isn't expecting us to nail this on the first go, but I think you did a terrific job so far. The boxes are together, drawn through, rotated but also they are elongated. That's just a pet peeve and has nothing to do with the overal quality of the exercise. 

* Organic perspetive - the transitioning of the boxes is well done, but the boxes themselves could use a bit more patience. Your boxes in the rotated box section were well constructed, but perhaps it's the Y method that isn't translating as much to this exercise? Some of the boxes are a bit slanted here and there, most notably in perspective group 1. However, you've corrected yourself in perspective group 2, and that is quite good.

Overall you paid close attention to the instructions, applied what Uncomfortable has taught, and manged get most of the exercises done without creating too many mistakes. You get a complete out of me.

Next Steps:

If you haven't done so, try the 250 box challenge and I guess move onto lesson 2 afterwards. Best of luck! I'm rooting for you!

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7:35 PM, Friday October 16th 2020

Thank you for the feedback! and yes you are right about my boxes...I have this bad habit of if I mess up a line or it doesn't look quite straight or whatever I go back over it which they tell you specifically not to do cause it just draws attention to it! so that is definitely a bad habit I need to break! Thank you very much for the feedback!

1:22 PM, Saturday October 17th 2020

No problem. I do the same thing as well haha.

Do tell me your method for the rotated boxes. I have issues with perspective at the top angles.

1:35 PM, Saturday October 17th 2020

initially I did too. I had to stop and go back and watch the video again where it got to that point of the exercise and I also read the lesson again where it gets to that point. it states to use the other box edges as guides for your angles of your lines. I was trying to just free hand them and it was totally not working. so use the edges of the other boxes for your starting lines. I would recommend watching the video and reading the material again for that part specifically cause that helped me a lot! Hopefully that helps!

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