Hi,
Thanks for the feedback. I've redone the texture analysis and the dissections. As for the other exercises I think I'm just going to have to redraw the other 2 pages.
I don't think either one is that good and I think I'd be better off just starting again.
I'll add other comments once they're done.
Thanks.
Hi Razgriz,
Great job on the revisions so far! The texture analysis transitions are looking much much better and I can't clearly identify a black or white bar on the sides anymore. Awesome!
I do still see that you outline every form in the middle. This suggests to me that you're still thinking in lines instead of shapes and cast shadows.
Even when you do draw a line, try to approach it like a shapes - because even if a shape is very thin, "actual" lines don't exist in nature! Example
So although your gradient is pretty good, I'm still seeing that outlining happen in the middle. Take a look at this example. See how the scales aren't outlined - but instead the shadows between them are accentuated? That's what you're going for!
I'm seeing that the textures you added on the dissections exercise still suffer from this outlining issue, and there's no transition from dense to sparse. I think for you it might be more valuable to do just one more of these dissections - just a single shape, don't even fill the page. And pay real close attention to how to suggest the texture without outlining. I think this is more important than the intersections exercise - that one is complicated and will come back later anyway.
If you do that, you don't have to do 2 pages of intersections - just do 1. That exercise is complicated and you're not expected to get it yet. It will come back later anyway.
One last note: because you're not drawing light, but you're instead drawing the 3D differences in your forms, you shouldn't draw materials like brass, glass, and chrome that are reflective. Apologies, I missed those on my first look.
Next Steps:
A single dissections shape (one organic form cut in a few sections). With the textures, pay very close attention to the cast shadows, and don't outline shapes/draw lines. Think 3D!
One page of intersections (instead of 2). On one half, draw mostly boxes. The other can contain other shapes also.
Hi Apologies for the long time between responses. I've been very busy with work and struggling to make time for drawing but here's my two redos of those exercises. Sorry, I forgot you said not to do shiny surfaces.
Hi Razgriz! Worry not. Apologies here as well for not seeing this notification until now.
Great job on doing these revisions! I won't pester you with more and will mark this lesson as complete.
I'll give you some final bits of feedback before you move on. On the dissections shape, you want to create a transition from dense to sparse, and you want the shapes on this form to follow the curve of the organic form. I'm not seeing those two things in your example. I'm seeing an improvement when it comes to drawing in cast shadows instead of lines though! The cracks between the stones truly feel like cracks instead of outlines.
Again, take a look at this image to see what I'm talking about.
For your spheres, make sure to go over them only 2-3 times. I see you draw through them more than that.
The intersections aren't fully convincing to me. Just like with how your shapes don't really wrap around the 3D form on the organic dissection page, I think this may suggest that you still struggle to "believe the lie" that everything you draw on the page is actually supposed to be 3D. Drawing is about tricking yourself into this lie. I'm afraid I can't give super specific advice on this, but it's very important. I really recommend you join the Draw A Box Discord server because there's a lot of poeple on there that are much more knowledgeable than I am, and they may be able to help you get more insight into this.
But as for this lesson, I'll mark it as complete! You can move on to lesson 3!
Next Steps:
Move on to lesson 3!
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