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8:56 PM, Tuesday February 15th 2022

Jumping right in with your organic intersections, you're doing a good job of laying out the sausages themselves such that they actually wrap around one another with a believable sense of gravity pressing down on the whole set. When it comes to your cast shadows however, I do feel that there is room for improvement here, as marked out directly on your work here. Your shadows don't quite follow the surfaces upon which they're cast correctly, and tend to be minimized, resulting in some inconsistencies. Always keep a consistent light source in mind, and factor in how the surface upon which the shadow falls actually sits in space - whether it's another sausage that curves away from the object casting the shadow, or the ground plane itself.

Continuing onto your animal constructions, I think there's a fair bit that's being handled well here, but there are also a number of smaller concerns that I have addressed in critiques of your previous works (some of them being specifically celebrating the fact that you weren't making certain common mistakes), but that do come up here. For example:

  • Engaging with your drawing in 2D space by modifying the silhouettes of forms that have already been drawn, rather than adding your changes only through the addition of complete, self-enclosed forms with purposefully designed silhouettes that establish the relationships between the forms).

  • Not making consistent and complete use of the sausage method when constructing your animals' legs.

  • Slipping back towards more general focus on 'decoration' rather than the specific elements that 'texture' as discussed in Lesson 2 focuses upon - though this was only limited to this cow where you fell back into using form shading (which as explained here does not play a role in the drawings we produce in this course). Since it only came up once, I won't address it further in this critique.

To the first point, as shown here on your dog construction, I've highlighted in blue a number of spots where you drew a one-off mark bridging from one 3D structure to another, enclosing the hatched area. But this hatched area exists only in two dimensions - there is no clearly defining elements that help the viewer (or you, for that matter) to understand how it is meant to relate to the other 3D elements at play. Thus, it reminds us that we're drawing something flat and two dimensional, and in so doing, reinforces that fact to you as you construct it. Creating believable, solid, three dimensional constructions despite drawing on a flat page requires us to first and foremost convince ourselves of this illusion, this lie we're telling, as discussed here back in Lesson 2. The more our approach reinforces the illusion, the more we make new marks that reinforce it even further. The more our marks break the illusion, the more marks we make that then further break the illusion, for us and for everyone else.

While in this course we're doing everything very explicitly, it's to create such a solid belief and understanding of how the things we draw exist in 3D space, that when we draw them more loosely with sketching and other less explicit approaches, we can still produce marks that fall in line with the idea that this thing we're drawing exists in 3D.

For the second point, I'll just paste in what I included in my critique of your Lesson 4 work:

The only real issue of concern is that I noticed that you seem to have employed a lot of different strategies for capturing the legs of your insects. It's not uncommon for students to be aware of the sausage method as introduced here, but to decide that the legs they're looking at don't actually seem to look like a chain of sausages, so they use some other strategy. The key to keep in mind here is that the sausage method is not about capturing the legs precisely as they are - it is about laying in a base structure or armature that captures both the solidity and the gestural flow of a limb in equal measure, where the majority of other techniques lean too far to one side, either looking solid and stiff or gestural but flat. Once in place, we can then build on top of this base structure with more additional forms as shown here, here, in this ant leg, and even here in the context of a dog's leg (because this technique is still to be used throughout the next lesson as well).

Continuing on from there, there is some further advice I can offer on a couple of topics: the design of your additional masses' silhouettes, and how we approach constructing our animals' heads. One thing that helps with the shape here is to think about how the mass would behave when existing first in the void of empty space, on its own. It all comes down to the silhouette of the mass - here, with nothing else to touch it, our mass would exist like a soft ball of meat or clay, made up only of outward curves. A simple circle for a silhouette.

Then, as it presses against an existing structure, the silhouette starts to get more complex. It forms inward curves wherever it makes contact, responding directly to the forms that are present. The silhouette is never random, of course - always changing in response to clear, defined structure. You can see this demonstrated in this diagram.

I've drawn some additional masses on the same dog as before to demonstrate exactly how we could build up the kind of structure you attempted to previously through the use of a more blobby mass, contour lines, and some flat shapes. Note in particular:

  • How we additional masses wrap around the existing structure (as noted with the blue lines,.which each pair with a specific inward curve).

  • Each of these inward curves establish specific relationships between each mass and the existing structures - whether those existing structures are the torso sausage, the mass at the shoulder or hip (where quadrupeds usually have more muscle mass to help them run and walk), or even other additional masses which, once added to the construction, become a part of that "existing structure".

Another thing to note in regards to these additional masses is that adding contour lines - specifically the kind that run along the surface of a single form, isn't really the tool for the job here. While that approach in the organic forms with contour lines exercise was great for introducing the concept, it does sometimes make students a little too eager to pile them on as a cure-all for making things appear more 3D. Unfortunately, contour lines of this sort only emphasize the solidity that would already be present, either through the simplicity of a form's silhouette, or through other defined spatial relationships, and they also suffer from diminishing returns where a bunch may not be any more impactful than just one. As such, it's always important to ask yourself for every mark you want to put down, "what is the purpose of this mark", "how can I draw this mark so it accomplishes its goal as effectively as possible", and lastly - "are there any other marks that are already accomplishing this goal".

Those contour lines aside, there are two main tools we have at our disposal when building up our constructions with new forms, and making those forms feel solid and 3D:

  • Purposeful design of the masses' silhouettes (as discussed above). This is the tool to use if you're adding something that wraps around the existing structure.

  • A contour line more similar to those used in Lesson 2's form intersections - which defines the joint or seam between two intersecting/interpenetrating forms. This is the tool to use if you actually have forms that are being "welded" together, like how the individual sausage segments in the sausage method have their joints defined with a contour line.

The last point to discuss is more of a recommendation for how to approach head construction in next set of animals. Lesson 5 has a lot of different strategies for constructing heads, between the various demos. Given how the course has developed, and how I'm finding new, more effective ways for students to tackle certain problems. So not all the approaches shown are equal, but they do have their uses. As it stands, as explained at the top of the tiger demo page (here), the current approach that is the most generally useful, as well as the most meaningful in terms of these drawings all being exercises in spatial reasoning, is what you'll find here on the informal demos page.

There are a few key points to this approach:

  • The specific shape of the eyesockets - the specific pentagonal shape allows for a nice wedge in which the muzzle can fit in between the sockets, as well as a flat edge across which we can lay the forehead area.

  • This approach focuses heavily on everything fitting together - no arbitrary gaps or floating elements. This allows us to ensure all of the different pieces feel grounded against one another, like a three dimensional puzzle.

  • We have to be mindful of how the marks we make are cuts along the curving surface of the cranial ball - working in individual strokes like this (rather than, say, drawing the eyesocket with an ellipse) helps a lot in reinforcing this idea of engaging with a 3D structure

Try your best to employ this method when doing constructional drawing exercises using animals in the future, as closely as you can. I do see some elements of this approach - for example, you block out your muzzles with good, boxy forms, although the way in which they actually connect to the cranial ball could be defined a little more clearly with lines that curve along the ball's surface. There are however many cases where you end up going with entirely different strategies. Sometimes it seems like it's not a good fit for certain heads, but with a bit of finagling it can still apply pretty well. To demonstrate this for another student, I found the most banana-headed rhinoceros I could, and threw together this demo.

As there are a number of areas I'd like you to demonstrate your understanding, I am going to have to assign some revisions. You'll find them listed below.

Next Steps:

Please submit an additional 5 animal constructions, doing your best to demonstrate a clear understanding of the points I've raised above.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
10:10 PM, Tuesday February 15th 2022

Thank you so much for the detailed feedback. I will work on the additional animal constructions and submit them soon.

12:37 AM, Thursday February 24th 2022

https://imgur.com/a/48AiJiv

Here is a link to some revisions. Please forgive me if this is totally unacceptable. I've got myself so twisted up about not knowing what I'm doing that I'm afraid I'll never submit anything if I don't just go ahead and do it. I understand about making sure to use 3D forms when I add on additional shapes rather than just drawing a line that makes things 2D. Even if I haven't demonstrated this well, I do think I understand the concept. I also understand about needing to fit the head pieces together without making random bits appear to be floating on their own. Again, I'm not executing this very well, but I think I get the idea. I'm not at all sure I understand what I need to do to make the legs more sausage-like, though. So . . . here's a first try at some revisions. I hope it's not a complete waste your time to look at it.

6:58 PM, Friday February 25th 2022
edited at 6:58 PM, Feb 25th 2022

Ultimately all we ask is that you give yourself the time to read, absorb, and process the feedback you've received as well as the lesson material, and that you give each requested revision as much time as you need to do it to the best of your current ability. So, your choice of sending in what you'd completed instead of fussing over whether or not you believe it to be acceptable/unacceptable is the correct one. Under no circumstances should you do more than what was assigned, even if you only intend to submit a few - after all, if you had the time to do several times as many pages, you also would have had the time to spend much more time on each of the ones that were assigned.

Ultimately as long as you put in your best effort to take in the feedback and apply it, even if and when you make mistakes, I can see that those mistakes are as a result of a lack of understanding, or perhaps a tendency to be forgetful, and thus further feedback becomes necessary.

Anyway! I can see that you are certainly moving in the right direction overall, but there are a number of problems still present. I'm going to address these primarily with notes on your horse drawing:

  • In regards to designing your additional masses. The main thing here I really want to stress is that in my original critique I spent a paragraph explaining how contour lines are not the tool to help fix your additional masses, and I'm still seeing you using them quite a bit, often trying to "fix" the blobby silhouettes of your additional masses. Instead of putting your attention towards the specific manner in which those additional masses are to be designed, you're allowing yourself to draw them however, and then attempt to remedy them after the fact. I think going forward it would be a good idea for you not to use those kinds of contour lines at all, as you have the tendency of using them as a crutch, and it's distracting you from solving the actual problem. To be clear, I want you to stop using the contour lines from the organic forms with contour lines exercise. Those that define the intersection/relationship between different forms (like those we use between sausage forms in our leg constructions), as introduced in the form intersections exercise, are still allowed and encouraged however.

  • In Lesson 4, I stressed the importance of treating the previous phases of construction as though their existing structure is solid and three dimensional - not just a drawing or a series of marks on a flat page. And thus, you should not allow yourself to cut across them freely, as you've been doing here, This is also an issue I called out in my initial Lesson 5 critique. You can also see this approach, focusing on each phase establishing solid, tangible structures (and not things we can just freely cut across when it suits us) in the shrimp and lobster demos on the informal demos page for Lesson 4.

  • You're still fairly inconsistent in your use of the sausage method. For example, you define that joint between sausage forms in some cases, but not others (for example, the horse's legs doesn't have any such joint/intersection contour lines). When it comes to the sausage forms themselves, you also do struggle to maintain those characteristics of simple sausages. In a number of cases I can clearly see you trying, with the ends coming out more stretched (which is something that will improve with practice), but in other cases you fall back to drawing ellipses rather than sausages, or breaking away from the sausages altogether.

  • I can see some efforts being made to follow the informal head construction approach, although the way you're making your marks appears rather uncertain. Like you're not really sure what kind of mark you're supposed to make, so instead of coming to a decision, you kind of hedge and put a more arbitrary mark down. Every single mark you put down should be the result of a clear and specific intent/choice. That choice can be wrong, but if someone asks you "why did you make this mark this way" you need to be able to explain your thinking behind it. If you can't, it suggests that you didn't think hard enough about it.

The last two points would definitely be improved by giving your constructions more room on the page - right now you're using maybe 50% or less of the space actually available there, and so each structure is small, and you're probably more inclined to slip back to drawing from your wrist or elbow instead of the shoulder. Take full advantage of the space available to you, do not try to squeeze your drawing into a small space. It'll help you engage your brain's spatial reasoning skills, and will also make it easier for you to engage your whole arm while drawing.

Next Steps:

Before you do any further revisions, I want you to go back to my Lesson 4 and initial Lesson 5 critiques, and go through them slowly and carefully. Perhaps read them, then give yourself a day or two to process, then read them again. Same goes for this additional feedback - it's clear to me that you're struggling to absorb everything all together, and so a lot of points are being left behind.

Once you've given yourself ample opportunity to read, absorb, and process that information, I want you to do another 3 animal constructions. Remember that as mentioned in this feedback, I do not want you to use any contour lines that just sit along the surface of a single form. Intersectional contour lines that define the joint/connection between two separate forms are still okay and encouraged.

Give yourself ample time to go through this, and be sure to spread your work across multiple sessions or days as needed - do not try to cram an entire animal construction into a single sitting, as doing so tends to make us feel as though we are somehow limited by how much time we have that day (and thus makes us sloppier and less attentive to what we're doing).

Additionally, do not attempt to work on more than one animal construction in a single day.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
edited at 6:58 PM, Feb 25th 2022
9:21 PM, Tuesday July 25th 2023

[https://imgur.com/a/R3XXj9T]

My husband had a massive stroke, and I have been consumed with helping him for months. I would very much like to pick back up where I left off with Drawabox, though.

During the time I was absent, I continued to do the exercises from the lessons I'd already worked through, and over the last month, I have reread all of the lessons and watched many of the videos from all of the lessons up to this point. I also reread all of the critiques multiple times.

Here are some revisions specified in my Lesson 5 Revisions critique. I did not include any contour lines per the instructions given there.

I hope it's okay to jump back in and would very much appreciate feedback.

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