Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes

12:37 AM, Sunday August 21st 2022

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This has been dozy, biggest takeaways;

ghosting

Ghosting is very helpful it helps you slow down and really makes you focus on the drawing and use clean lines however; I find it hard to ghost effectively on unstable surfaces. Do I always need to visualize the drawing and where all the points connect to ghost?

switching from pencil to pen is a very different process, the biggest problem I have is committing to my "mistakes", especially on these exercises there are many times when I realize I have made a small mistake and subconsciously try and fix it to only make it worse.

  1. boxes and perspective

Rotated boxes

I know uncomfortable said not to think too much about some of these exercises, but sorry I can not help it that is why I am here, I do not understand what he meant by saying the boxes are not perfect cubes, I am just trying to understand how the boxes rotate in space in every direction possible, as I feel like that is the biggest hack. and being able to draw a box at any angle without any guidelines will come in very handy.

4vanshing points

I am aware that 3 vanishing points exist at all times, even if it does not seem like it and when the box rotates it is in a 2point perspective, but I do not understand how exactly the vanishing points move on the horizon line when the box rotates. (i would love videos or articles to help with this)

5drawing boxes

I have watched the video on the 250 box challenge and how to draw a box, I understand the concept of the y converging to two vanishing points, however, I feel like that only makes me better at drawing random 2 point perspectives, if the goal of the 250box challenge is just to draw 250 boxes and try to make them in the correct perspectives, we are not gaining control over things like rotation, foreshortening and size.

sorry for the long ramble, I like intellectually breaking down things it helps me learn much faster.

please be as harsh as possible and do not feel bad for making me redo exercises.

Can I draw stuff in the 250boxes, like heads, hands etc with a pencil or another colour? thank you and sorry lo

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11:12 PM, Monday August 22nd 2022

Hello and congrats on completing lesson one. My name is Rob and I'm a teaching assistant for Drawabox who will be handling your lesson one critique. Starting with your superimposed lines these are off to a fine start. You are keeping a clearly defined starting point with all of your wavering at the opposite end. Your ghosted lines and planes turned out well. You are using the ghosting method to good effect to get confident linework with a pretty decent deal of accuracy that will get better and better with practice.

Your tables of ellipses are coming along well. You are doing a good job drawing through your ellipses and focusing on a consistent smooth ellipse shape. This is carried over nicely into your ellipses in planes although you are deforming some of your ellipses at times. https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/13/deformed You are compromising your overall ellipse shape by adjusting for accuracy midstroke. Try and rely a bit more on the muscle memory of the motion you build up while ghosting and almost make your mark without thinking. This will be less accurate at first. Although accuracy is our end goal it can't really be forced and tends to come through mileage and consistent practice more than anything. Your ellipses in funnels are having the same issues and you are also tilting your ellipses off the minor axis at times. https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/14/notaligned This is something you should always consider when drawing your ellipses. I'm also seeing some wobbly linework here and there and this is likely because you are becoming concerned with accuracy while making your ellipse and slowing down your stroke to compensate. Try and focus more on the muscle memory you build up ghosting the ellipse and almost make it without thinking. This will be less accurate at first but should eliminate the wobble issue. There is a lot of room for improvement when it comes to your ellipses both in terms of overall consistency of shape and accuracy so make sure you keep practicing these in your warmups as they can take a while to get used to.

The plotted perspective looks good although this was supposed to be laid out with three exercises per page. Please check the example here. https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/15/example Your rough perspective exercises is having a few issues. You are getting a mix of confident linework here along with some wobble creeping back into some of your lines. https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/9/wobbling This is probably happening because you are more concerned with accuracy now that you are constructing boxes and you are slowing down your stroke to compensate. That hesitation because of your concern for accuracy while making your mark is what is reintroducing the wobble into your lines. Try and rely a bit more on the muscle memory you build up while ghosting your mark and almost make your mark without thinking. This will be less accurate at first but will give you consistently smooth and confident linework which is our first priority. Accuracy will come with mileage and can't really be forced. The main issue here though is that you didn't follow the directions for this one point perspective exercise. https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/16/step2 This is the key section you ignored:

In one point perspective, one of the horizontal vanishing points of our boxes is going to be at infinity, as will be one of the vertical vanishing points. As such, all of our vertical lines will run perpendicular to the horizon, and all of the horizontal lines will run parallel to it, leaving only one set of lines that converges (towards our single vanishing point).

You are doing a good job extending the lines back on your boxes to check your work. As you can see some of your perspective estimations were quite off but that will become more intuitive with practice. Since you didn't follow the instructions for this exercise I'd like you to do one more page of it as a revision. Make sure to follow the directions this time.

Your rotated box exercise turned out pretty well. I like that you drew this nice and big as that really helps when dealing with complex spatial problems. You also did a good job drawing through your boxes and keeping your gaps fairly consistent. While the rotations here aren't perfect this was a good attempt overall. The main issue I'm seeing with this exercise though is a lot of wobbly linework throughout. This could be happening for the reasons I've mentioned previously and you might also be reverting back to using your wrist for some of these short lines. I can't be entirely sure why it's happening so it's something you are going to have consider yourself. This is a great exercise to come back to after a few lessons to see how much your spatial thinking ability has improved. Your organic perspective exercises turned out pretty well. You seem to be getting more comfortable using the ghosting method and drawing from your shoulder for more confident linework which is great. There is still line wobble here and there so line confidence is definitely something you need to keep working on. You weren't required to draw through your boxes for this exercise but you did do it for the most part. I'm just a bit perplexed why you left lines out for some boxes and not others. While your box constructions here are pretty wonky throughout I can tell you are starting to develop a sense for how box lines need to converge to vps. There is plenty of room for improvement when it comes to this though so the 250 box challenge will be a great next step for you.

Overall this was a pretty good submission. Your line confidence took a bit of a dive in the rough perspective and rotated box exercise but showed solid improvement with the final exercise but this is still something you need to keep working on. Your ellipses are off to a good start but there is plenty of room for improvement here as well so keep practicing them during your warmups. Once you get that revision submitted and I take a look you can most likely move on to the 250 box challenge. Also please do not draw anything in your 250 box challenge before submitting it for official critique. These exercises are designed to be fairly rigidly followed for the sake of easier critique. Once you submit them for critique you are free to draw anything in them you like obviously.

Next Steps:

One page of the rough perspective exercise - Follow the instructions and keep all of your horizontal lines parllel to the horizon line and your vertical lines perpendicular to the horizon line.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
6:13 PM, Wednesday August 24th 2022

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Hello Rob,

Thank you for the detailed feedback.

Here are the revisions, one page of rough perspective and one extra page of funnels.

I am honestly not satisfied with my work, but I did not want to linger, so I am handing it in.

Rough perspective:

I realized the first time around I tilted my boxes; I fixed that this time;however, I am still having trouble following through with my boxes confidently especially after noticing mistakes within the first strokes.

Ellipses and circles:just more practice espcially,on large ones.

Look forward to your reply. Please do not hesitate to make me redo any exercise, I will continue to practice estimating vanishing points and elipses anyway, but I just wanna make sure I am up to standard before moving on.

Cheers,

8:18 PM, Wednesday August 24th 2022

Okay, so the rough perspective exercise is looking better. Your linework is much more confident throughout which is great. You are still heavily slanting your construction lines at times. As said previously all of your verticals should be perpendicular(straight up and down) to the horizon line and all horizontals should be parallel to the horizon line. You are doing a good job extending the lines back on your boxes to check your work. As you can see some of your perspective estimations were quite off but that will become more intuitive with practice.

Your ellipses in funnels are still running into the same issues I mentioned previously so keep practicing these during your warmups. I'm going to mark this as complete and good luck with the 250 box challenge!

Next Steps:

The 250 Box Challenge

This critique marks this lesson as complete.
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