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2:43 PM, Saturday November 12th 2022

Hello JustCuteGirlzArt, thanks for replying with your revisions.

Starting with your organic forms, I'm pleased to see you're drawing the forms with a smooth, continouous line, good work. Pushing you out of your comfort zone has caused a couple of your forms to get a bit pinched in the middle but I'm confident that you'll be able to keep them simple after a little more practice in your warm ups.

When it comes to the ellipses on the ends, I just spotted that the work in your original submission was upside down, so when I was talking about the form at the top of the page being wrong, you may have thought I meant the bottom one. I do apologise if this caused you any confusion, to avoid this happening in the future, it helps if you check that your work is the right way up when you post it. I've marked on your work here which ends should have an ellipse on them because they face towards us, and which ends face away and will not have an ellipse. Look carefully at this diagram I shared with you previously, it shows which way the contour curves need to go. You can see that when an end is visible, there is a contour ellipse on that end, and the contour curve next to that ellipse curves away from the ellipse, not towards it.

There is a new issue here with some of your contour curves that wasn't present in your initial submission. Remember to hook your contour curves around the form. Uncomfortable calls it overshooting, and it is explained on the exercise instructions page here

Moving on to your insect constructions, you're taking steps to perform actions in 3d, and the way you've handled the head of your shrimp in particular is showing a lot of improvement. I'm not too sure what the heavy use of black on the abdomen segmentation is for. If you're adding cast shadows remember that they are cast from one form onto another, in a specific direction (away from the light source) so applying them uniformly the whole way across has flattened the form of your abdomen.

You're not applying the sausage method of leg construction correctly. I went over this at length in your critique. In particular I wrote in itallics "NO contour lines through length of sausage, you'll flatten it needlessly." So it does seem like you are not really doing what you need to in order to absorb and apply the feedback you've received. I've marked on a section of your work here one example where you're forgetting to add the curve for the intersection to reinforce the joint, and peppered the length of the sausages with contour lines instead.

On the subject of time, I noticed that you turned in three pages of revisions about 24 hours after I assigned them. While your enthusiasm is admirable, this does lead me to think that you may be underestimating how much time these constructions may need to take.

While we do not expect students to produce perfect work, or even good work, what we do require above all else is that the student invest their time in every way they need to execute the work to the best of their current abilities. That can mean taking as much time as one needs in the construction of each form, the drawing of each shape, and the execution of each mark. It can also mean taking plenty of time to observe one's reference - not just at the start of a drawing, but frequently throughout its process to inform every choice and decision we make. And moreover, it also means taking the time you require to ensure that the feedback that has been provided in the past - not just in reading through it the first time, but in revisiting it as frequently as you require to keep that information fresh in your mind as you work through the homework, or whatever else you may require to do so. For some students that means taking notes so they have what they need to keep in the forefront of their minds open in front of them as they do their next work. I'd reccomend you give this video a watch as it explains how to get the most out of Drawabox, and what your responsibilities as a student are.

I won't be moving you on to the next lesson just yet. Each lesson builds off concepts in the previous course material so if you move forward with un-addressed issues you may end up just creating further issues on top of them. Please complete 1 page of organic forms with contour curves and 2 pages of insect constructions.

Additionally, I'd like you to adhere to the following restrictions when approaching these revisions:

1- Don't work on more than one construction in a day. You can and should absolutely spread a single construction across multiple sittings or days if that's what you need to do the work to the best of your current ability (taking as much time as you need to construct each form, draw each shape, and execute each mark), but if you happen to just put the finishing touches on one construction, don't start the next one until the following day. This is to encourage you to push yourself to the limits of how much you're able to put into a single construction, and avoid rushing ahead into the next.

2- Write down beside each construction the dates of the sessions you spent on it, along with a rough estimate of how much time you spent in that session.

Of course if anything I've called out previously, or here, is unclear or confusing, you are allowed to ask questions.

Next Steps:

1 page of organic forms with contour curves

2 pages of insect constructions

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
5:10 PM, Saturday November 12th 2022

Let me try to rephrase each of your criticisms just so we are both on the same page:

  1. When a sausage is pointed towards the viewer there should be a contour curve arching away from that side. The opposite is true when a side is pointed away from the viewer. The smaller the degree of the contour curve the less dramatic of the change will be. I will keep that in mind when doing the organic form exercise.

  2. my contour curves need to be more hooked

  3. the black line was originally a form that showed the segmentation of the shell. I tried to use a brush pen to create a shadow, but ended up messing it up and flattening the form

  4. No contour lines through the length of the sausage forms. I am a little confused by this as there were no constructions that I submitted for revisions that had a contour line through the length of the sausage form. The example you show doesn't have a contour line through the length. Did you mean the width? Because that is what you show in your example.

  5. You brought up time as being a concern and I'll be sure to record that on the pages, but I would like to know what is enough time? I spent 45 minutes on the sausage forms, and an hour each on the insect constructions. Is that not enough time?

Let me know if I missed anything.

Thanks,

JustCuteGirlz

8:19 PM, Saturday November 12th 2022
edited at 8:19 PM, Nov 12th 2022

Hello JustCuteGirlz,

1 "When a sausage is pointed towards the viewer there should be a contour curve arching away from that side. The opposite is true when a side is pointed away from the viewer." Yes.

"The smaller the degree of the contour curve the less dramatic of the change will be." Not exactly. The degree of the contour curve corresponds to the angle we're viewing that part of the form at. Where the form is almost parallel to the viewer, the contour curve will be narrow (have a small degree) You can see how the contour curves behave on this banana and in this diagram.

2 "my contour curves need to be more hooked." Yes. Your original page was fine in this regard, but some of the curves in your revision stopped abruptly at the edge of the form, flattening it out.

3 Fair enough.

4 Maybe you thought I meant contour lines that go length-ways. That would have been an understandable confusion if it was something you were doing in your original homework submission. I think it is probably already fully clear to you from what I've marked on your revisions, but I've put together this diagram for you, just in case you're not sure.

5 I did not set a specific amount of time that you should spend on your work because it varies wildly from student to student. For example with the 250 box challenge one student may take about 5 minutes per box, and another may take 20. As long as both students are taking as much time as they need to do the work to the best of their current ability then they're both doing a good job.

edited at 8:19 PM, Nov 12th 2022
9:28 PM, Sunday November 20th 2022
10:38 AM, Monday November 21st 2022
edited at 10:40 AM, Nov 21st 2022

Hello JustCuteGirlz, thank you for replying with your revisions.

Starting with your organic forms. You're placing the ellipses on the ends that are visible, and hooking your contour curves, good work.

Looking at your insect constructions, these are a big step in the right direction, great work! You've stopped adding contour curves in places where you don't need them, and I can see you're working very hard to take actions in 3D as you construct your insects.

I've popped a couple of notes on your work here as a reminder as you're not always defining the intersection where your leg sausages join.

Thank you for your hard work, I'm really impressed with the progress you've made. Feel free to move on to lesson 5.

Next Steps:

Lesson 5.

This critique marks this lesson as complete.
edited at 10:40 AM, Nov 21st 2022
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