Lesson 2: Contour Lines, Texture and Construction

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Done with Lesson 2! I didn't get any feedback for my 250 box challenge submission so feedback for this lesson would be very appreciated.

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2:56 PM, Tuesday October 26th 2021
edited at 3:00 PM, Oct 26th 2021

Hi Rodri_113. I'll be reviewing your submission. Let's see:

Organic Arrows: They look great, for the most part. They are fluent, compress as they go away and get bigger as they come closer. There are some inconsistencies too. On the first page, the arrow at the left border compresses and gets bigger at the same time, creating a contradiction that breaks the illusion of space we're aiming for. On the second page there are some beautiful arrows though, especially the one in the middle. Be careful with your lineweight: it's no problem if it isn't accurate, but don't trace it under any circumstances, and try to apply it only on intersections. Remember, we ghost all our lines.

Organic Forms: Overall, they look like sausages, and you did a good job aligning the ellipses/curves to the minor axis, and fitting them to the margins of the shapes. There's one issue though, and that is that you either didn't change the degree at all, or you did it inconsistently. You can take a look at this image, it will give you a better understanding of the way the ellipses/curves are suposed to work. Remember as well that the little ellipse at the end it's supposed to be like the parallel line at the pole of a globe, that is, it will turn and change depending on the position of your form.

Take a look at these images as well, they are really useful to understand the way forms turn and twist in 3D space.

Texture Analysis: Looks great as well. A few details: be careful with single lines, like this. You did mostly well on that aspect, but it's good to remember. You could've broken the black line more as well, since it still looks clearly like a black bar and less like an integrated shadow on your texture. And maaaybe you could've done a softer transition to the white part, but that's it, great job overall.

Dissections: Here there are a couple of issues. You could've wrapped the textures around the form a bit more, in textures like the banana, the shapes don't seem to follow the curve of your form. The level of detail intensity is inconsistent as well. Sometimes you get it right, like in the corn or the fried chicken, but most of the time you rely too much on explicit detail, outlining everything and not letting the shadows dissapear. Think of this example, and compare it to your pinecones, for example, and you'll see what I mean. But on the positives, you did good creating texture by drawing the cast shadows, and you broke the silhouette efectively in most of the cases. Textures are very exhausting, so it is understandable if you missed a couple of things.

Form Intersections: They look like they exist on the same place, and that is the whole point, so great. Issues: your line gets a little wobbly at times, again, remember to ghost and draw from the shoulder. Your spheres could use a little ellipse to help them stand out as believable 3D forms, if you do that, remember that they work exactly as the poles on the organic forms. Watch out for your alignments on the cylinders, it's important that you keep your minor axis alignment as consistent as posible.

There are some issues with the boxes, but nothing too bad, especially considering that you didn't get any feedback for the 250 Box Challenge. And you did make a try on the intersections themselves. I wish you could've been bolder with that, but it's not the point of the exercise, and it's just a first try, so yeah.

Organic Intersections: They feel mostly solid and believable. There's still the ellipse/curve problem we talked about, where the inconsistent turning and end poles make it seem less believable, and your lineweight does not help with that, as it looks insecure and applied to sections it doesn't always belong. Remember to apply lineweight only to intersections.

Your shadows as well are stiff, instead of following the curve of the form (like what happened with the dissections). Look at this example for more on that.

Lastly, try to keep your sausages as sausages, even if they're not supposed to be visible. There are a couple of peanuts and other strange shapes hidden, especially on the second page.

Overall, you did a good job on this lesson and got the point of it. Your issues have to do mostly with the organic forms, but as long as you keep warming up with them, and keep going through the lessons, they will eventually work out.

A couple of things before ending. First: don't skip on feedback! If a week passes and no one has reviewed your work, you can submit it to Discord, where they will make sure it gets reviewed. There's a ton of side material to help you through the lessons too, most of my examples for the corrections come from there. I'll try to give a look at your boxes later, but don't move forward without getting feedback.

Second: if you feel tired out, give it a rest. From the dissections onwards, it felt like you got exhausted and just pushed through the end a bit. While it's great that you didn't give up, remember to take your time and apply the 50/50 rule. You want to make the best possible work when it comes to the homework, and if you want to take some time off, that's totally fine. Just don't make it too much :P

That's it! I'd say that you are good to move on to Lesson 3, as long as you feel like you understood all the corrections, and keep applying them on the following lessons. Also, keep some focus on your organic forms as you warm up, that way you'll start to understand them better. If you have any questions, I'll be here to answer them. Cheers!

Next Steps:

  • Feel free to move on to Lesson 3.

  • Keep working on your organic forms (and the rest of the exercises from Lesson 1 and 2) as you warm up, 10 to 15 minutes before you draw.

  • Don't forget to take breaks and apply the 50/50 rule.

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edited at 3:00 PM, Oct 26th 2021
4:38 PM, Tuesday October 26th 2021

Thanks a lot! Really appreciate it. Yeah, honestly I did feel a little exhausted on the dissections and didn't do it too carefully. I will take your comments into considerantion.

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