250 Box Challenge

1:03 PM, Wednesday July 6th 2022

Direct Link: https://i.imgur.com/iCp88Ro.jpg

Started this challenge around mid November of 2021 and finished it yesterday, on June 5 2021

It took way longer than it needed but it still finished regardless.

I had to put the first two pages of the challenge in one image as the limit on Imgur was exactly 50 and I had 51 pages, so i apologize if there is any inconvenience with reviewing the first 2 pages.

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12:25 AM, Monday July 18th 2022

Heya Boxaddict! (cool name :D). Congratulations on completing the challenge, you really did a ggod job mate!.keep up!

I'm Chiran and I decided to look over your submission and offer my Advises on it as best and helpful as possible.

before we get started these are the name given specifically because of their order and to represent the specific section of the boxes

Newbies - ( 1-100 boxes) 2. Intermediates - (101-200 boxes) and 3. pros - ( 201- 250 boxes).

This feed back will consists of three parts. Alrighty! lets start exploring the three parts. Shall we?

PART 1: THE PRAISES ( The job you did well in the challenge) :)

  • Checking your mistakes: your mistakes are slowly reducing in the challenge because of the line extention method (that is checking your mistakes by extending the correction lines away from the viewer) , because of this your Intermediates and pros are looking good. so thats great!

  • while line weight and hatching are optional in this challenge. You did a solid job on using those tools to reinforce the form you are constructing ( in this case box) and thereby providing a more visual Info to the viewer. we advice you to continue to use those tools even in warm ups to build mileages with them.

  • I can say that you are building a sense of confidence and patience in drawing your boxes by plotting down the starting and end points of the lines first before executing them or before committing them, so thats nice.

SO CONTINUE TO USE THESE IN YOUR WARMUPS AND FUTURE CHAPTERS TOOO! IT DEFINITELY HELPS MATE!

PART 2: WHERE IT WENT SLIGHTLY OFF? ( Where you should keep an eye on) ( No worries part!)

You are on the right track and you have understood the concept of perspective very well so the box challenge has done its job.but there are hiccups in your work that needs to be identified and removed.

so yeah I will do my job to mention and identify some of the minor issues in your works and you can do your job by including 1-2 boxes in your warm ups to reduce them in the future.

THE LINES;

  • FIRST THINGS FIRST, the newbies and intermediate boxes contains wobbly lines, this the result of slow and hesistant in execution. so we adiveyou to keep the confidence excution as the first priority above all else.

  • another thing we advise is that to not repeat or correct the plotted lines as i have seen in your work. they have improved in the later stage but always try your best to move on thinking them as a correct lines and making note of it to avoid in the future

  • make sure to apply the line weights only to the silhouett/ body of the boxes ot the entire boxe lines

  • Sometimes your hatching lines are not planned before executing. So we advise you to take your time to plan ( planning means plotting down the points and ghosting over them before executing) even the hatching lines and super imposed lines and execute them from your shoulder with confidence as the utmost priority. Don't get caught up on accuracy cuz It will create wobbly and uneven Lines and try your best as possible to keep the spacing of the hatching lines equal.

Now jumping to Boxes:

of course you had improved throughout the challenge but there are times where some of the set of lines converges at a faster rates than the others resulting in converging in pairs. yep this issue you can definitely work on, in your warm ups. by trying to know the relationships between each lines related to its distance.https://imgur.com/KSHwTwo

It's completely and totally normal to have the back corner line slightly off compared to the rest.they have significantly improved at end of your work so nice job!.

It would have been better If you had taken time to Construct Some Extreme foreshortening and bigger boxes in this Challenge to build some better mileages and spatial Ability with Them also ( sine most of the newbies and Intermediates in your work are focused mainly on Shallow foreshortening).and there are times where you sometimes construct similar types of boxes in alternative pages .Shallow foreshortening boxes are Important because most of the time this is what is Demanded in the physical World. but Extreme foreshortening boxes are also Important when we want to convey more information in a scene like fish Eye perspective.

PART 3: THE JOB WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE OUR BOXES IN OUR WARM UPS

You're making good progress towards understanding the concepts introduced in this challenge, below I'll be listing some things that will hopefully help you in your future attempts at these boxes.

  1. Always make an effort to take your time while adding line weight and hatching to boxes in order to reinforce the solidity we are conveying. make sure to plan them before executing them.because every marks we make should serve its purposes.

THE INNER CORNER PARADOX: In this challenge, we are estimating where our lines going to converge to a point. as we are humans, it is almost impossible to perfectly estimate where our lines will going to converge thereby resulting in an error. this error will continue to accumulate as we construct the box freely rotated in space. finally this accumulated error will be thrown to the back corner. So its pretty normal to have the inner back corner come out pretty off.

I want to take a look at this info here;https://i.imgur.com/8PqQLE0.png

In this image we can know that how each line will behave relating to the position from its neighbouring edges and the VP.So we can arrive at the conclusion that, If the distance between the internal edges and external edges gets reduce more and more they will eventually become parallel to one and another ( but keep in mind they will converge slightly at a negligable amount no matter what). Alternatively If the distance between the internal corner and the external grow more and more the internal line will also converge.

you can also try and start from the back corner if the box is narrower.https://imgur.com/a/DHlA3Jh.

if your aware of these notes, then you need to build mileage by including 1-2 boxes in your daily warm up routine. after that your boxes will get better and better and will eventually make you happy at the end. :D

  1. Even if your Ink flow is inconsistent please do not repeat or re attempt or re create your lines. so again try your best to move on that nothing has happened.we should continue treat every lines with respect How do we treat with respect?- first we should plan where our lines will start and end by plotting the points and ghost them several times ( hovering in motion) and draw them with confidence and from the shoulder.

  2. And as always continue to experiment with your boxes and have fun with it. try to construct some bigger and extreme foreshortening boxes as well in your warm ups. experimentation, observation and results ( like in practicals :D) is always important for our growth.

  3. Last thing which is worth Reminding here is that Speed of execution: when to increase the speed of drawing the lines and when to slow down?

If the lines came out dark, wobbly, contains subtle S curve and undershooted then increasing the speed of drawing your lines can reduce these issues. however if the lines are overshooting more and the flow of ink in your pen is inconsistent then its advisable to reduce the speed and try to lift the pen off the page when reaching the end dot.

feel free to experiment with different speed of drawing your lines from point A to point B during your warm up session and opt for the smooth and consistent ones. Increasing the speed of execution can really help in reducing wobbly lines and subtle S curves.. And it can also help in reducing the course correction of your lines too!.

Always make sure you are starting at the Starting dot exactly after the ghosting job.

yes We should continue to use ghosting method, drawing from shoulder and make sure that We are always use our arm to get the best flow as possible.

MY POINT OF VIEW

we all know, this challenge was very intimidating because of constructing 250 boxes arbitrarily rotated in 3d and yet you did a great job by keeping persistent till the end with lots of effort, focus, energy and time so hats off for that. Be proud of What you have Accomplished

" A BOX A DAY KEEP OUR ISSUES AWAY"

Yes, We've come to the end of this feedback. overall, this was a solid submission Your submission reveals that you did take time to read through the lesson materials, followed the instructions and executed to your best of your ability. so that's good job!..thank you for submitting your assignment to the community.I'm confident that you will improve much better In the future by keeping the mistakes in mind in your Warm ups.

so yeah I'm allowing you to move on to Lesson 2 by marking your lesson as Complete.

Yippee ! we have completed this challenge. congratulations!. I hope this feedback helps . Have a wonderful artistic journey. keep goin. I'm awaiting to see your Progress.

Thank you BOXADDICT!

Next Steps:

WHAT NEXT?

  1. yeah move on to lesson two. i belive you will improve during warmups

  2. most important: The warmups- make sure to provide 10-15 minutes before stating of the session. include lesson 1 and boxes

  3. keep in mind the mistakes

thank you!

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3:43 PM, Tuesday July 19th 2022

God, I love this critique, this was immensely useful, not only because you pointed out mistakes and habits I had that I other wise wouldn’t had known about, but this critique will help me have an good idea on how to critique others with the 250 box challenge.

I only started recently critiquing other submission, and even half of your critique takes a lot of time, let alone the effort and time you took out of your way.

I took a bit of a break from draw a box, only submitting critiques then and there, but this just motivated me to push through and do better, I haven’t felt this motivated for a critique that I didn’t even expect to see in my notification.

All I can say thanks, I wish you the best.

3:06 AM, Friday July 22nd 2022

thanks a ton! Its nice to hear it from you

I'm glad that you responded back to my critique

I wish you success in your journey

have a wonderful day mate!

cheers!

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