Lesson 2: Contour Lines, Texture and Construction

10:40 PM, Saturday September 11th 2021

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Thank you so much for taking the time and reviewing my work.

I hope you don't mind that the last few pages are in pink. My black pen ran dry and I didn't want to buy a new one when I had a perfectly working one at home....

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3:06 AM, Sunday September 12th 2021

Wow! fantastic Work my friend. you did an Awesome job on completing this lesson with lots of focus, energy and time. be proud of what you have Accomplished. grats!

Hey Cytori! Its Chiran Again.I hope Its not a problem to Allow me to View your Submission and offer my Insights on it as well.Kind of excited and also nervous but I will try to be best and helpful as possible.

Of course Its not a problem of using different pen in the work. Since its a community Route we have some flexibility with using our pen but be as best to always use Fine liners since it forces us to work on only black and white shapes. So without any further Ado Lets start Jumping In;

A- The praises ( the job you did well in the particular exercise)

B- Where It went slightly off( where you should keep an eye on)

C- What you can do or remember to improve on in future warm ups.

Starting from your ARROWS:

A- well done! The Arrows are flowing smoothly and Confidently and It feels like they are Exploring the depth of the vast 3D space instead of just 2d flat Page. so Good job on selling that lie to the viewer. and I appreciate that you did Identified your mistakes on hatching on the wrong side of it. Be conscious of it next time

B-There are times Where you sometimes hesitate while drawing the smooth Curved lines of an Arrow resulting in a Slow and wobbly Lines. So this is the Issue that needs to be Avoided as best as Possible in the Warm ups By being Confident and drawing from our Shoulder.

There are spots where your arrows bulge/narrow suddenly, this is an issue because it gives the impression that your arrows are stretching which hurts their solidity.( like we can mainly see on your second page of Arrows). Sometimes the perspective of your arrows are slightly off. Like the space between the successive folds compress less when it reach towadrs the viewer instead of getting bigger and bigger.

https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/0f7c806c.jpg

Here Take a look at this: .https://imgur.com/mE8oFfk I did draw over your work to show some of the Issues you are facing.

C-Yes It’s a lot difficult to do than saying- so we advise you to build the second similar curve in part by part or you can plot some points along the path of second curve and ghost several times and execute to your best. Always remember as the arrows appear closure to the viewer their space and thickness increases more and more like shown in this Image: https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/011d064f.jpg

another Thing I want to Remind here is about the line weights: Line weights are the important tool to use Whwn to clarify the overlaps between the folds. Use them with care ( be subtle with them only one extra line is preferable). Yes they should be ghosted and drawn with confidence and shoulder.If you sometimes hesitant while applying them Then they will become wobbly and messy so be mindful of it

Now Moving on to ORGANIC FORMS:

A--I think you are not fallen into the category of complicating your Forms so good job on keeping your organic forms simple ( The characteristics of simple organic form is like – there will be Two identical balls which are connected by a tube which can be manipulated in any ways).

I appreciate that the Ellipses are drawn with concrete or real goal in mind meaning - taking time to plan where your ellipses sit before executing and striving to keep them within the Bounds ,Aligning to spine of form and increasing their degrees as they travel through the form so thats good.!

B- Sometimes your forms get a little bit complex like the balls are squished( like they form sharp curve at the ends) instead of being identical ( we can see on organic forms with contour Curves) so yes try to think them as a identical ball connected by a tube of constant width.

Mate The organic forms with contour ellipses photo is not taken separately? If not its not a big of a deal I can see on the dissections exercise. But In a rare times you are fallen into the trap of Executing your ellipses and curves in a Accurate manner thereby some of your ellipses and curves look wobbly and Uneven.there are in minority but we should avoid those as best as possible So we advise you that if you are so much cared for Accuracy, leave it there for sometimes and focus on Creating a smooth, even ellipses confidently from your shoulder and later After building some Mileages with them you can work on Accuracy as well.

C- how you can Improve?- Yep You should continue to try your best to hook the contour lines around the organic forms, while also aligning to the minor axis and also be mindful of their degree shift . My little suggestion is to Experiment and have fun with them in your warm ups. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/368871002584907776/867744968432549928/QTEqgJa_1.png

Jumping on to THE TEXTURE ANALYSIS:

A- Your texture analysis is Awesome!. good job! On focusing mainly on the cast shadows shapes and how they Interact with the surrounding forms.

B-I can say you did a good job on conveying your textural information to the viewer in the form of Gradients from densely packed to sparse so this will help our viewers eye to move freely( its is called working Implicitly) . but there is still you need to exaggerate the shadow shapes when they move toward the densely packed sides therefore making the black bar not visible.( like we can on rough wood and brick wall) so try your best to eliminate the visibility of the black bar.

C- I would like to show this Image https://i.imgur.com/M9JJfr4.png

In this Image It explains why we have to focus mainly on shapes rather than outlines or simple lines. So by focusing mainly on shapes we can create interesting and more dynamic textural info rather than simple lines. its just a reminder though.

Another thing thats worth reminding here is that- we should try our best to avoid some dots in our texture. if in case Its neccessary try to think of them as a cast shadows casted by the little forms that exists on the surface while doing so feel those little forms and try your best to slightly rotate the wrist around form ( like comfy does on Chicken texture)

Now THE DISSECTIONS:

A- Nice work here also you did a good job on wrapping your textures around the form.

B- But sometimes you did seem to outline your forms and focus on the lines Instead of focusing on the cast shadows. So yes its best to always focus on shapes so that we can create interesting and more dynamic textural information rather than simple lines to the viewer.

This issue is present in a little, but still I’ll mention It. (There are minor times where you are not taking the chance to break the basic silhouette of the organic forms ( like we can see on turtle shell, scale and brick wall) .If You have a great opportunity to convey your textural info,then we advise you to take that opportunity and break your basic silhouette because this is the first info where our eyes will draw.

C-How you can Improve them: so first always be mindful of your curvature and wrap your textural forms around it. Second try your best to focus mainly on the cast shadows ( not the outline of form) and how they affect the surrounding forms. Third arrange your forms in the form of gradients ( in this Exercise assume there will be light focused on the central part of organic forms) here there be will be sparse in the central portion and more dense near the silhouette.

The dissections and texture analysis are the qite challenging and most difficult Exercises. You did a nice job on completing the recommended amount of pages. If you wish you can include them in warm ups ( 10- 15 min that’s all ) and do a small portion of it to Improve further.

THE FORM INTERSECTION:

A-What are the good jobs here? – Well You did a great job in keeping your forms Coherent, cohesive and resembling that they share the same scene( shallow foreshortening) and good job on drawing through your Forms as well.

Splendid work on you Intersections.

B-One thing to Remind here about the line work is – we advise students to take Their time to plan and ghost the lines ( this can also applies to hatching lines as well). then execute them with your shoulder confidently. Even while adding line weight and hatching lines you should ghost and draw them confidently.Its just a reminder.

There is some minor hiccups in the Intersections. Since its not much the focus of the exercise I can say that you are on the right track. Use Our community support member ( Optimus) First Aid pack on Intersection. It’s a wonderful guide for all of us.which is available on the draw a box discord server # lesson 2 pinned Messages.

It would have been better if you had included some more forms like cylinders and pyramids in this exercise to solve more complex Intersection Problems. so Yeah You are free to try and tackle in the warm up session.

C-Last but not the least – you should always continue to plan your lines ( like plotting down the points and ghost over them several times if you need to) then execute them with your shoulder confidently. And also you are free to use Hatching lines to clarify which face is front and which is back. Even while adding line weight and hatching lines you should ghost and draw them confidently.

moving on the last Exercise

A- Nice work here as also mate!. Again good job on keeping your forms simple. I can say that you are thinking about them as water balloons which have mass and volume to them and also aware that they can sag and bend when it dropped on the other similar form.

B- sometimes the Shadows are not sticking around the form below it but instead they stick to the form itself. So please be mindful of it next time and exaggerate a little bit more.

MY POINT OF VIEW:

we all know that, this lesson was very intimidating because of textures and form intersection and yet you did a great job by keeping persistent till the end with lots of effort, focus, energy and time so hats off for that. I'm really Impressed by your progress at the end of this lesson. keep up the good work.I'm marking your lesson as complete. and also don't forget about the above mentioned points. you should try your best to adopt them in the warm ups which should be not more than 10- 15 minutes.

Hurray ! we made it. Congratulation on completing the lesson 2 . I hope this feedbacks helps. Have a wonderful Artistic Journey Ahead. I'm awaiting to see your progress throughout

Thank you CYTORI! I hope you are doing well.

Next Steps:

1.feel free to move on to lesson 3

2.set a timer for 10 or 15 minutes- know your goal , be conscious of your mistakes and fight for 10 or 15 minutes in warm ups. be as perfect as you can but don't expect perfection!.

Thank you!

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7:42 AM, Tuesday September 14th 2021

Hi Chiran,

thank you so much for correcting my submission (again). I was really happy when I saw your name, your critiques are so detailed and well structured and you always add helpful pictures and links, they really help a lot! You even drew over my work, so I can't thank you enough for taking the time and energy to do so detailed work.

I'll keep in mind to keep my lines confident and draw from my shoulder. I never thought of adding points along the curves, but it sound so logical and I'll definetly do it from now on. I'll also put a little more focuse on my warmups, I feel like I had less focus on them the past weeks and slacked off a little... So thank you for reminding me :)

Thank you again and I hope you are doing well as well

10:12 AM, Tuesday September 14th 2021

Hey Cytori!. Thank you very much for your time and effort in responding to my feed back with kind words really appreciated it and Its nice to hear it from you.

I'm Glad that you found my critique helpful.

good luck on the journey and the lesson 3 mate!.

have a good day!

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