Lesson 2: Contour Lines, Texture and Construction

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Boy that was a tough lesson

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9:28 PM, Thursday May 1st 2025

This lesson is definitely a challenging one, but ultimately keep in mind that all we're doing here is creating a body of work so that the person providing you with feedback (me) can assess where you understand how to approach these exercises correctly and can continue to apply it yourself in your warmups, and where your understanding of the goals and approaches for certain exercises may not be complete, so that we can better know what advice and recommendations would best serve you going forward.

Jumping in with the organic arrows exercise, there are a few points that I noticed here:

  • Firstly, when it comes to drawing the edges of your arrows, it seems that you didn't adhere as closely to the approach shown in the instructions, where we do our best to draw each side edge of the arrow with one continuous stroke, engaging our whole arm from the shoulder. While there are areas where you did try this to varying degrees, there are a lot of cases where you ended up drawing shorter strokes and attempting to construct the whole edge through separate components. Drawing a single continuous edge in this way is not remotely easy, but it's important that when you face something that is difficult, that you do not jump automatically to prioritizing having the end result come out a certain way. The thing about exercises is that they are about the process we employ, because it is through that process, and the actions and decisions they demand of us, that we gain experience with specific kinds of challenges. If however we modify the process - for example, by allowing ourselves to tackle a single zigzagging edge in segments instead of all at once - then we alter the exercise, and don't necessarily work towards its intended goals.

  • The point above is the most important, so prioritize that above all else - but one other more minor consideration is that as we draw the edges of our arrow, we want to try and do so in a way that applies foreshortening (that is, the effects of perspective where things farther away from us get smaller, and things closer to us are bigger) to both the positive space (the structure of the arrow itself, to which you are appyling foreshortening reasonably well) and the negative space (the gaps between the zigzagging sections, which also should be getting smaller as we look farther back in space - this part can be improved). This section from the instructions talks about this a bit more.

  • Your application of hatching is pretty sloppy. In general, it's really important that students take their time with every single mark they put down - the more things they're inclined to rush or treat as being not necessarily all that important (like hatching lines), the more likely they are to be sloppy in approaching the more significant aspects. So, really take your time, allow yourself to think between the actions you take, and remember that any mark you decide to put down warrants the time and effort you can muster to execute it to the best of your current ability.

I've mentioned this already, but I think it bears mentioning again - really focus on engaging your whole arm from the shoulder, and ensure that your upper arm is moving (that's an easy way to confirm that you are pivoting from the shoulder). It'll help you to lean into a smoother, gentler zig-zag, and will avoid the kind of more sudden, tighter turns and sudden changes in trajectory that we're seeing in your work right now. This is likely the result of drawing more from your wrist or elbow.

Continuing onto your organic forms with contour lines:

  • I can see that you are trying to stick to the characteristics of simple sausages, although that you are having some difficulty with it. To my eye, it appears to be a similar issue to what I mentioned above - you're drawing with a more limited range of motion (due to leveraging more the wrist or elbow), and it causes you to end up leaning into the inevitable "curve" that occurs when we hit the limitations of a given pivot. So for example, when you start and end your sausage's shape, you end up doing so at a point that curves inwards (as shown here), when they should be meeting as two relatively straight or at least similar-trajectory strokes. Using a pivot that affords a larger range of motion (ie: the shoulder) would give you more room to have the sausage's silhouette close in a more seamless fashion.

  • Your contour ellipses are okay but there's definitely a touch of stiffness to them - though it varies. I believe there are a few factors to this at play: 1) At the risk of beating a dead horse, engaging your whole arm from the shoulder will definitely help 2) Make sure that you're applying the ghosting method in its entirety - if you're not rotating the page to find a comfortable angle of approach for the given ellipse you want to draw, that would explain why some ellipses come out a little more stiff/irregular than others, and would also speak to the inconsistency in whether or not your ellipses are aligned to that central minor axis line correctly.

  • The degree of your ellipses seems to be fairly random, which suggests that you're either having trouble executing a specific degree you desire, or more likely, you may not be thinking much about how wide you want your ellipse to be. Remember that the degree/width of an ellipse corresponds to the orientation of the circle that ellipse is meant to represent (in this case, a cross-sectional slice of our sausage). The wider the degree, the more that circle is turned to face the viewer head-on, and the narrower it is, the more it's turned to face across the viewer's field of view. We talk about this at length in the ellipse section of Lesson 1, including how even if the sausage were perfectly straight (like a cylinder), we would still have some degree shift, with those contour ellipses closest to the viewer being narrower, and getting wider as we slide away from the viewer along the sausage's length. This also applies to the contour curves, which are really just the visible portion of the larger ellipses.

Continuing onto the texture section, one thing to keep in mind is that the concepts we introduce relating to texture rely on skills our students generally don't have right now - because they're the skills this entire course is designed to develop. That is, spatial reasoning. Understanding how the textural forms sit on a given surface, and how they relate to the surfaces around them (which is necessary to design the shadow they would cast) is a matter of understanding 3D spatial relationships. The reason we introduce it here is to provide context and direction for what we'll explore later - similarly to the rotated boxes/organic perspective boxes in Lesson 1 introducing a problem we engage with more thoroughly in the box challenge. Ultimately my concern right now is just how closely you're adhering to the underlying steps and procedure we prescribe (especially those in these reminders).

I am pleased to see that you're thinking about how to approach your textures with a focus on filled, intentional solid black shapes, although there are definitely still cases where you end up drawing the textural forms themselves (rather than just the shadow shapes that they cast on their surroundings), like where you opted to draw circles, or parts of circles, for your tentacle texture. Remember that as noted in the reminders linked above, we want to follow a process where we're always first outlining a shadow shape that we then go on to fill in, rather than simply drawing lines one by one. This is also more prominent in your dissections - although as noted before, our focus here is on introducing a problem, so this will have lots of room to improve as you progress further into the course.

Moving onto the form intersections, this exercise serves two main purposes:

  • Similarly to the textures, it introduces the problem of the intersection lines themselves, which students are not expected to understand how to apply successfully, but rather just make an attempt at - you've handled this pretty well and are demonstrating a well developing grasp of the concept already, and this again will continue to be developed from lessons 3-7, and this exercise will return in the homework in lessons 6 and 7 for additional analysis, and advice where it is deemed to be necessary).

  • The other, far more important use of this exercise (at least in the context of this stage in the course) is that it is essentially a combination of everything we've introduced thus far. The principles of linework, the use of the ghosting method, the concepts surrounding ellipses along with their axes/degrees, perspective, foreshortening, convergence, the Y method, and so forth - all of it is present in this exercise. Where we've already confirmed your general grasp of these concepts in isolation in previous exercises, it is in presenting it all together that can really challenge a student's patience and discipline, and so it allows us to catch any issues that might interfere with their ability to continue forward as meaningfully as we intend.

By and large the impression that I get from your work here is that while you appear to be applying the steps appropriately (in the sense that I can see the points for the ghosting method's planning phase, which suggests that you're attempting to apply it to every mark you draw), there's two main issues that are likely at play that are keeping you from executing this work to the best of your current ability:

  • As noted numerous times before, you're probably engaging your arm from the elbow, and so your lines are more likely to arc a little instead of remaining as straight as they could, and your ellipses might be more prone to irregularity in their shapes

  • You may not be giving yourself as much time for every mark as you could - and so while the correct steps may be applied (in terms of the planning, preparation, and execution phases of the ghosting method), you may still be rushing somewhat and undermining how much benefit you get out of that process.

Lastly, your organic intersections are honestly pretty well done. The linework could be better, but as a whole you're cognizant of the volumes of each form and are demonstrating a good grasp of how they interact with one another under the sway of gravity. You're also leveraging your cast shadows to help emphasize those spatial relationships reasonably well.

As a whole, I think what your work is telling me is that there's a lot that you do understand about how to approach the exercises, but there's also a great deal in the principles from Lesson 1 - mainly when it comes to executing your lines and ellipses - that is causing you trouble. Now, where we introduce these concepts and confirm the student's understanding of how to approach them, this does not mean that the student has mastered those skills. Rather, as discussed in Lesson 0, they become part of a regular warmup routine which helps us to practice and continue to hone those skills, having understood the process of the exercise itself in order to get the most out of it.

Now, if you've forgotten about the warmups and haven't been keeping up with them prior to now, that could explain the issues we're seeing. Without continued practice of engaging your whole arm from the shoulder, or of applying the ghosting method, it would make sense that you might not yet be as comfortable with their use as you could be.

And of course, another major factor at play may be a matter of time. It's not uncommon for students to have their own ideas of how long a given task should take - and so how much time they spend on something can end up being completely disconnected from the complexity of the task itself. In this course, there are no deadlines, and no stipulations that you should be completing an exercise, or a page, or an assignment in one sitting. And so, do be sure to give each task as much time as it requires of you (ensuring that you're giving all of the individual marks as much time as they require) so that the work you're submitting is always done to the best of your current ability.

I'm going to assign some revisions below, which will help me assess how much of what I've laid out here is understood, and whether there are additional points that should be addressed (as sometimes certain issues can mask others).

One last thing - when working on the revisions, I would like you to give the videos for the corresponding exercises on ScyllaStew's youtube channel a watch so you can see how another student paces themselves. It's very easy to assume things should be done more quickly, while it can be very normal to take way longer than you might expect to be normal.

Next Steps:

Please submit the following:

  • 1 page of super imposed lines from Lesson 1 (focus on the longer lines - I want to see you engaging your whole arm from your shoulder

  • 1 page of tables of ellipses from Lesson 1 (similarly, I want to see you engaging your whole arm from the shoulder while executing these ellipses)

  • 1 page of funnels from Lesson 1 (this is because these are similar to the challenges we face in the organic forms with contour ellipses)

  • 1 page of arrows

  • 1 page, half of organic forms with contour ellipses, half with contour curves

  • 2 pages of form intersections

For each page I want you to write the date and time that you started, and the date and time that you finished. If you end up working on the same page across mutliple sittings, you can have several dates/times, so that each session is defined. I mainly want a better understanding of how you're pacing yourself.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
11:41 PM, Saturday May 17th 2025

As requested, here are revisions with your critique in mind:

https://imgur.com/gallery/1yJdUJ7

A few notes for you:

I was doing the warmups since the start of the 250 box challenge

I tried my best ; )

5:58 PM, Monday May 19th 2025

For the arrows, I can see that you're making a concerted effort to apply the points I raised in my feedback, both in terms of executing the marks with a single continuous stroke, and in applying the foreshortening more meaningfully. There's room for continued growth here, but you're on the right track and will have ample opportunity to continue improving on this front through your warmups.

For the organic forms with contour lines, your contour ellipses are coming along decently, with two main things to keep in mind:

  • Be sure to draw through your ellipses two full times, every time - sometimes you fall short. Remember this is mandatory for every ellipse we freehand throughout this course.

  • You are still running into some trouble in aligning your ellipses to the minor axis line correctly, sometimes by quite a significant margin as we see here. While part of this is a matter of practice and ensuring you're aware of the alignment you want to achieve, another thing you can also try is that if you find your alignment tends to be off by a similar amount each time, try to intentionally draw your contour ellipse slanted in the opposite direction, to basically counteract the slant that occurs naturally.

  • When it comes to the smaller contour ellipse we draw at the tip of the sausage form, it appears that you may not be thinking too much about what degree would be appropriate to use there, and so you frequently end up drawing that ellipse wider/more circular than the contour line immediately preceding it (this occurs both with contour ellipses and curves). So for example, here we can see an example where they're quite different in degree. They should be much more similar, with the smaller ellipse generally being a bit narrower since it's usually on the end that is closer to the viewer.

For the contour curves, your results are somewhat mixed. There are plenty that are coming along well, like those we see here, but these here, specifically the two to the left are all over the place. I'm not usually in the habit of putting too much weight on one or two instances amongst many others that are better, but there's two things I can think of which might result in this issue:

  • There's the easy answer - maybe you just didn't pay much attention when drawing those

  • And then there's another thought, that you might not be rotating the page to find a comfortable angle of approach, which as part of the ghosting method's planning phase (which should be applied to all of the marks we freehand throughout the course) is required.

Lastly, for your form intersections, overall you're doing better for sure, but I still do see a lot of stray marks. While initially I might assume these to be cases where you automatically redrew sections of your linework reflexively (in the manner you're not supposed to) - and there are some cases where that certainly appears to be the case as we see along the right side edge of this cone - I think many of them might simply be the result of your pen grazing the page as you ghost. If that's the case, try to hold your pen a little higher above the page and stabilize with the side of your hand or your pinky finger against the page (as discussed here). And if you are putting those marks down as a result of separate reflexive actions, then please give yourself more time to ensure that every action you take is the result of intent.

I am going to mark this lesson as complete. You're demonstrating progress in the key areas I noted, although it is important that you keep working at them and giving yourself as much time as you require to handle them to the best of your current ability, as they their persistence will make the later lessons more challenging.

Next Steps:

Move onto Lesson 3.

This critique marks this lesson as complete.
6:32 PM, Wednesday May 21st 2025

Hey Uncomfortable, thank you kindly for the critique.

A few questions and quick clarifications for you:

The frayed lines your seeing is either a result of me grazing the page as I ghost or missing when I try to apply line weight (I'm under the impression that you add line weight the same way you do all other marks so I'm not always accurate)

I'll work on fixing the ghosting issue, don't really know what to do about line weight

Sometimes my contour ellipses aren't aligned to the minor axis because I feel that sometimes my center line isn't actually center so I try to allign them.to where the minor axis ought to be ( as mentioned on the exercise page). To what degree should I worry about this? Should I try and align the ellipse to what is drawn more than where it should be ?

And a broader question, i have a bit of a mental block when submitting work i know that's going to be reviewed, I feel like I have an easier time with warmups because I know no one else is gonna see it. (,probably from years of prep school) any tips?

Thank you for the critique again, hope this wasn't too long winded.

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