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11:13 AM, Thursday January 19th 2023
edited at 11:19 AM, Jan 19th 2023

Hello Cap, thank you for replying with your revisions.

Starting with your organic forms these are a bit better, in fact, one of them is great. I've highlighted it in green on your work here. You will want to practice these carefully in your warmups, as you're continuing to produce most of the issues I noted before across the various forms on your page. I've noted them on your work. Please refer to my previous critique for fuller explanations.

Continuing on to your insect constructions it looks like there is a point from my critique that you haven't fully understood, which I will try to explain more clearly. There are also a few things which I believe you do understand but that you're not taking as much time as you really need in order to apply them consistently.

Unfortunately it seems that you may not have understood what I had explained in regards to avoiding altering the silhouettes of your forms. I will try explaining this again.

Take a look at this image of your fly. At the top I've diagrammed how you started with a ball form for the head. This can be perceived as a shape (an ellipse on the page) or as a form (a ball in an imaginary 3D space) depending on how you choose to think about it.

Then to the left I've shown in red where you cut across the ellipse to effectively alter its shape, cutting it into two pieces - a piece below the red line that was being cut away, and the piece above the red line that remained. In doing so, and as demonstrated in this diagram I shared previously, you're eliminating the possibility of us understanding what's been drawn as a 3D form. By cutting the potential ball form's silhouette into two flat shapes, there's no way for us to understand it as though it exists in three dimensions. We are left with only the information we need to understand it as a flat, two dimensional shape. Instead, as shown in green, we add to our existing structure by drawing new forms and connecting them to what is already on the page. Please refer to the various diagrams I shared previously for examples of how to do this.

This is about ensuring that we're always operating in 3D space, you have to actively try to think of the things you're drawing as though they're solid and tangible - like you're actually introducing chunks of marble into a real 3D world, and everything you draw is adding to it. While the fact that we're drawing on a piece of paper gives us a lot of freedom to put whatever marks we want down, most of those marks are going to break the illusion that we're trying to create.

As mentioned in my last feedback, though perhaps it was not clear enough: Do not try to work subtractively. That means, do not try to cut away pieces of the forms you've drawn. Only work additively for now.

Now, there are some other issues in your work that have been brought up previously, and I firmly believe these are concepts that you do understand, most of them were introduced in previous lessons.

1- Remember to add a contour curve to reinforce the joints for your leg sausages. These little contour curves might seem insignificant but they do tell the viewer a lot of information about how the forms are orientated in space as well as reinforcing the structure of your legs by establishing how the forms connect together. I know that you understand how to do this, as most of them are present on this spider. However most of them are missing on your scorpion. I have brought this up specifically, and drawn it on your work before, which leads me to think that whatever you're doing to attempt to apply the feedback you have received is not enough. You may want to take notes in your own words, or make yourself a checklist of points to remember.

2- Stick to 2-3 passes on your ellipses. I've marked on your scorpion where you got a bit aggressive with drawing though some of the ellipses on the tail 4 or 5 times. I've explained this before (as did Uncomfortable in your lesson 3 critique.) And I'm sure you understand this, but weren't paying enough attention to what you were doing at the time you drew these ellipses. Those ellipses could also be more carefully aligned to your flow line. The flow line should serve as the minor axis for the ellipses, cutting them into two, even symmetrical halves.

3- Do not arbitrarily repeat or redraw lines. I've circled an area on your beetle where you drew a line four times. This forces the viewer into choosing which line is supposed to be the silhouette of your construction, and whichever one they choose, there will be 3 other lines on the page to contradict that illusion, undermining the solidity of the construction and reminding the viewer that they're just looking at a series of lines on a flat piece of paper. Ghost the line as many times as you need to, then draw it once.

4- Do not scribble. I've circled a patch of scribbling on your beetle. Zig-zagging back and forth in a single stroke breaks the third principle of markmaking that was introduced in lesson 1. Marks must maintain a consistent trajectory. If you're applying texture, you'll want to follow this process of outlining a shadow shape and then carefully filling it in. I'd recommend reviewing these reminders for how we approach texture in this course. I'm sure that you understand that you're not supposed to scribble in this course, and that patch was a result of drawing without thinking about what you're doing. Everything you add to these constructions- every form, every mark, needs to be the result of a conscious decision. If I were to point to something in your construction and ask "why did you do this?" the answer should not be "I don't know". The answer can be wrong, in the sense that your thinking was wrong, but as long as you're thinking it through and have some reason you can give, correct or not, that shows you thought about it. Thinking is also necessary when it comes to applying the past advice. You can't just read it, and expect it to sit in your subconscious to be applied readily going forward.

So, take your time to use the ghosting method in full for every line you draw, at every stage of your construction, no matter how small.

I will be assigning some further revisions. For these, I'd like you to adhere to the following restrictions:

  • Do not work on more than one construction in a given day. So if you happen to put the finishing touches on one, do not move onto the next until the following day. You are however welcome and encouraged to spread your constructions across multiple days or sittings if that's what you need to do the work to the best of your current ability. That's not a matter of skill, it's a matter of giving yourself the time to execute each mark with care (which as I noted earlier is something you sometimes don't do as well as you could).

  • Write down beside each construction the dates of the sessions you spent on it, as well as a rough estimate of how much time was spent on it.

Please complete the shrimp demo and the lobster demo from the informal demos page. Follow each step exactly as shown to the best of your current ability.

Then draw 3 more pages of insect constructions.

Next Steps:

  • The shrimp and lobster demos.

  • 3 pages of insect constructions.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
edited at 11:19 AM, Jan 19th 2023
6:02 PM, Saturday January 28th 2023

https://imgur.com/a/RbHBMiw

I forgot to put a date on each of them but i guarantee you I didnt do more than one per day.

9:58 PM, Saturday January 28th 2023

Hello Cap, thank you for replying with your revisions.

I'll start by pulling in the feedback you already received on discord, so it's all in one place again.

In response to your shrimps-

Hello Cap, this is much better, well done. I think it is important that understand why this is better, so take a look at this comparison between your two constructions. If you look at the area I've circled, on your first attempt you'd cut inside your forms (which breaks your 3D illusion as I've explained in detail to you before) but when you followed the demo more faithfully you built onto your construction by adding more forms instead. I hope you can see the difference.

I don't want to be discouraging, but seeing as you asked, there are a couple of things that could be better.

In step 2 you changed the number of segments, not a huge deal, but I hope this was a conscious decision and not a lack of observation.

On the same step you could be a bit more careful/observant with the exact shape of the segments. You did a great job with the one I've drawn over in green. Can you see the difference between the two red ones? The one on the left is tracing your lines, and doesn't have much relationship to the basic abdomen form below it. The one on the right I have altered to wrap it around the abdomen.

In step 3 two of the forms you added were incomplete. Pay close attention to the demo. Draw through your forms.

Your work is improving, and I know you can do this. Keep it up. Best of luck with the rest of your pages.

In response to your lobster demo construction-

Hi Cap. I would agree that you've done a much better job wrapping the segments round the top of the abdomen this time, great work. Your use of the sausage method of leg construction is improving too.

I would also agree with your analysis that tweaking the proportions of your basic forms from the first couple of steps would be a good idea. You noticed that you ran out of room on the paper for the claw, right? This isn't the end of the world, but it's also a problem you've encountered before on this scorpion and the answer is to be sure to plan the size of your basic forms to ensure the rest of the construction will fit on the page. Here is a quick analysis on another lobster, of what I might consider before I put pen to paper. At the end of the day, if you do run out of space on your page, it helps to keep your construction feeling solid if you "cap off" where you cut your construction using an ellipse, just like we cap the ends of the branches in the branches exercise from lesson 3. Leaving gaps in your silhouette will undermine the solidity of your construction.

1- I want you to look at the tip of the tail. Then look again at the lobster demo and at this correction I made to your shrimp yesterday. Can you tell me what mistake you have repeated here?

2- I want you to look again at this comparison I made on your two shrimp constructions then compare the underside of the abdomen on your lobster with the lobster demo image. You've done something different to what was shown in the demo, and it matters. Do you know why?

3- There is something missing from the little arms (legs? mouth parts? IDK I'm not an entomologist) that are added in step 5. Take another look at that step and tell me what you missed.

4- There are 3 forms from step 8 missing. Two of them are pretty big. Look at what gets added to the demo in step 8, and again at your construction. What have you missed?

Your response-

1- I’m not drawing through my forms consistently, or at all

2- The ball I made for the base of the lobster was too big and I was too focused on following the demo to every little detail that I ended up carving into the ball rather than adding a for. Outside of it

3- I’m going to take a guess and say I didn’t establish which one of those little sausages is in front of the other by adding a simple contour line to close them off.

4- Part of the claw construction in step 8 is missing from my attempt at a follow along. My example is also missing the 2 big forms on the shrimp’s back that I didn’t really notice for some reason.

And confirmation of your understanding-

1- Correct. It will help you to improve your understanding of 3D space if you draw through your forms.

2- Correct. So, for organic constructions, we always add to our constructions instead of trying to subtract. This may result in less than ideal proportions, but helps to maintain that 3D illusion that we're aiming for in these exercises.

3- Yes, it is the contour curves for the intersections where the front leg sausages join together that are missing.

4- Yes, it's the two big forms on it's back that you missed. Also one above the eye.

I'm really happy that you were able to spot these things, now try to apply what you've learned here to the rest of your pages.

Feedback on the last two pages

These are heading in the right direction, the spider especially is quite well done. Good work.

You've done well at thinking about your lines an not automatically repeating or redrawing them.

You're doing a much better job of sticking to the sausage method of leg construction. There are some approaches to building up structure on top of those base sausage armatures that work better than others. While it seems obvious to take a bigger form and use it to envelop a section of the existing structure, it actually works better to break it into smaller pieces that can each have their own individual relationship with the underlying sausages defined, as shown here. The key is not to engulf an entire form all the way around - always provide somewhere that the form's silhouette is making contact with the structure, so you can define how that contact is made.

When it comes to eyes, remember that we use solid black for describing cast shadows in Drawabox. So don't automatically colour them in because they look black in the reference, consider what forms are actually present and decide if it makes sense for there to be a cast shadow there.

On the second lobster there are a few places where you're extending your constructions with partial shapes instead of complete forms. Remember when you want to add to your construction each form needs to have a complete silhouette.

You're showing a much better understanding of what we're going for here, so I'll go ahead and mark this as complete.

Please make sure you do whatever it is that you need to do in order to remember all the information I have given you in these various rounds of feedback, as you will need to apply it in lesson 5. Best of luck.

Next Steps:

Lesson 5

This critique marks this lesson as complete.
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