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3:29 PM, Thursday April 28th 2022

Hello! First of all make sure you don't do several attempts. It's important that you don't repeat the exercises because the thing we want to critique is your understanding, not the results. So when you're told to do one page, just do one page, no more.

On the boxes you've done some good attempts already not repeating lines and drawing them confidently! But I want you to see what you actually do, I want you to do 2 more pages, but this time draw 4-5 boxes per page, not just one, so I have more stuff to critique. And remember, don't repeat anything! If something goes wrong, just keep going.

Good luck and keep up the good wokr!

Next Steps:

1 page of boxes with shallow perspective (4-5 boxes)

1 page of boxes with extreme perspective (4-5 boxes)

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
4:09 AM, Friday April 29th 2022

First I want to say thanks for taking your time to go over my stuff. Now the reason I had to repeat 23 times is to get that good result. 23 times and five times because I messed up. If I had turned any of those in, it wouldn't have reflected what i understood. It would have dragged this out longer. I want to show nothing but the best I can do to finally clear this challange at last. Sometimes that requires many attempts in order to produce the best to present. But looking at the messups, I knew they weren't what you were looking for and had to try again. However it's good you are seeing how my hard work is worth it as not only does it show I'm doing better than I think, it's helping get better.

Just for these, one of the mistakes I made was when I drew my boxes, one was too close and I realized that wasn't going to work. Besides, The way the boxes were, I didn't like the looks of them. It's now a matter of figuring out how to draw these again but also make them smaller to fit 4-5. And looking at a number of the boxes, none of them in the slightest looked right in a way to show I understand the directions. Especially when I don't want to draw a box for shallow foreshorting but have it come out dramatic and mix them up. Also thinking ahead trying them at different angles have made it hard but again; I need to show I understand this. However strangely the first dramatic I did came out right the first time. Wierd how that works.

Hopefully I didn't mix up shallow and dramatic when trying different sized boxes and angles and I do apologize how too of my boxes are same angles, just different sizes. But after 17 attempts (Which is a lot less compared to last time but still taking over 3 hours) here we are (Note the boxes are stapled due getting one right but then messing up on the same sheet of paper, so cutting out the good one and throwing the mistake away and completly screwing up one axis line): https://imgur.com/a/EpjWDrC

I hope with this I can finally move to probably fixing things in lesson 2. If not, I guess I will have to keep this up until deemed understanding enough to move on. I'm still glad at least though again you are going over this, as despite how anoying and frustating this can get at times, gets me one step closer to finally clearing this challange.

9:25 AM, Friday April 29th 2022

Hello again! Once again, you shouldn't repeat them. I can see if you understand the concepts or not if you show me what you do in your first attempt. If you repeat them until you get a good box you're just hiding your misunderstandings from me.

I don't expect to see a good looking box or a good boxes, just whatever you can do doing your best in one attempt. So please, give me once again the same homework but this time without repeating anything. If anything goes wrong, just keep going, don't redo the box.

So once again I want you to so 2 pages and only 2 pages. Whenever you start a page, don't start over, keep going and finish.

Next Steps:

2 pages of boxes as requested without redos

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
9:19 PM, Friday April 29th 2022
edited at 9:20 PM, Apr 29th 2022

Here it is and you can see not even completed due to again seeing mistakes pop up. The only box that's remotly close was the eigth and final box (Which is quiet a drop from 17 attempts) but I'm not happy. Now I feel I will have to do this again and suffer; It's like I'm doing the 250 boxes all over again at this rate: https://imgur.com/a/uEuNRue

I guess another 2 pages or more of the same thing regardless of how boxes turn up I'm guessing is the next thign I'll be assigned with . I'm just tired, frustrated, and just wanting to finish this challange; it's gone on way too long. Sorry for whinning and moaning, but once again like when doing the original 250 I'm at my wits end with how many more times will I need to do this until it's deemed I understand this and can move on. At least you are being patient with me which I know isn't easy. I hope this doesn't make you want to quit or give up on me. I'm certainly not trying to make anyone do so.

edited at 9:20 PM, Apr 29th 2022
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3:58 AM, Sunday May 1st 2022

First I heard that you have covid. Here's to a swift and healthy recovery. Until you are well, take whatever time is needed to get better. I know what it's like having gotten the flu and better to be in full health then half well and trying to critique or do art and do it as an anime character would say, "Half-assed."

Now onto my submission. This I feel is what my last attempt shoudl have been. What a night and day difference it is when I'm more calm and clear headed. On top of that the fact that even though the mistakes are clear, this time they are very few (And yes some silly ones but not red flags to me), plus the fact it didn't take much before you can see boxes where all sides join right, I say is a huge improvement from when I first started this.

I think though with the mistakes I saw this time, some angles are goign to be a bit tougher than others and all I need is just a bit more practice with those. Also you may notice inconsitances with the ink; I think my pen is running out (But I have others when that happens). You can look at both submissions, but I feel this is the more accurate representation of what you asked for and a much more clearier picture with showing if I understaand this. And I am much more pleased with myself when it comes to this.

I will leave this here and will wait for your reply as you get better. While waiting, I'm going to focus on other DB areas: https://imgur.com/a/p4Rzd8z

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