250 Box Challenge

9:42 PM, Friday March 18th 2022

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At last finished. I don't feel like this is a victory, I feel anything but that. I'm just glad finally finished and can move onto lesson 2 even if this gave me mostly nothing but frustration, pain, and everything negative.

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8:28 PM, Tuesday April 26th 2022

Hello! I'll take over the critique as I told you on the discord.

First important thing here is that you are repeating lines and that your lines are a bit wobbly. I want to make sure first of all that you can approach them confidently and without repeating them, so I'll ask you to draw one box. Make it pretty big on the page so you have space to think.

Remember, no repeating lines and focusing on confidence. Good luck!

Next Steps:

1 big box no repeating lines and drawing them confidently

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
2:52 AM, Wednesday April 27th 2022

Okay it may have taken over six hours but here it is. I still am not 100 percent sure this is going to work but after spending an hour trying to get this right, this is what I have: https://imgur.com/a/C0zZMzl

6:50 AM, Wednesday April 27th 2022

Don't worry about the time. Most important thing is that you do your best on every line, if it takes 2 weeks to finish an assignment or whatever, then it takes 2 weeks. No problem.

Now into your exercises you're making good progress, good job! Lines are also converging even if at pairs at least, so that's another good thing.

Next thing I wanted to talk about is that most of your boxes on the last revisions you did were extreme perspective. So I want you to do one page of boxes of extreme perspective (with vanishing points on the page or almost on the page, and one page of boxes on shallow perspective, with the vps far away from the page, like you did on the last box.

Make sure you focus on drawing the lines cleanly like you did just now and good luck!

Next Steps:

-1 page of boxes with shallow foreshortening

-1 page of boxes with extreme foreshortening

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
2:27 AM, Thursday April 28th 2022

After over an hour and after 23 attempts for the first one and five for the second one, I'm pretty shot and hurting with my brain. I really hope the converging lines shows: https://imgur.com/a/D0wDQtn

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5:06 AM, Saturday March 19th 2022

Hey man,

I'll at least start by saying that your ability to converge your lines has gotten better in your later attempts.

However, I hate to potentially add to your anguish, but I still see plenty of areas for improvement. I've seen people on the Discord give you advice, and in some cases, I really hate to break it to you, but I'm not sure I see evidence of you attempting to follow them.

Namely, I recall seeing people tell you that you're not extending your lines away from the viewer properly, even in your later boxes. Either they extend the wrong way (box 188), or you forgot a side altogether (box 186 - you actually doubled up on the y-axis). By not doing this, you're not properly checking your own work to make improvements later. The lines should follow the Y shape you start with. Also, sometimes your extensions don't even follow the line you intially drew, which also defeats the purpose.

I may have also seen some people suggest that you draw bigger boxes. On top of that, I feel like you could've had more variety in your box angles, perspectives and types - they're super hard, but pizza boxes are an example of something you haven't done. Experimenting with them may leave you with quite a few wonky boxes - I sure have my fair share - but taking a risk every now and then can be valuable.

I've noticed that some of your boxes are isometric, meaning that you've drawn them with at least one set of parallel lines - meaning they will never converge. Again, this defeats the purpose of the challenge - you're essentailly removing vanishing points. Box 195 in particular has two sets of parallel lines.

Furthermore, your mark making abilities aren't there yet, unfortunately. Your lines are frequently wobbly and doubled up, rather than being smooth and confident. Are you ghosting, drawing from your shoulder, and drawing quickly? Are you warming up with lesson 1 exercises before starting a box session?

On a related note, I don't see any evidence of you planning your lines either. This video is pinned in the channel for a reason, it is insanely helpful. Seeing as how I saw you say that a page of 5 boxes "shouldn't" take an hour, I have a strong hunch that you aren't taking the time to be analytical.

Anyway, I'm very sorry to be the bearer of bad news while you're feeling down. If nothing else, you have my sympathies - I can very much understand what you're going through.

Next Steps:

Review Lesson 1, the article on the challenge, then maybe try another 50 boxes at least. Don't rush.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
2:49 AM, Thursday April 21st 2022

I know I didn't reply for a month, but here they are. I don't know how long it will take to see this. Some boxes were wonky, a couple had to be crossed out. This time I feel at least teh extensions are done right in terms of going away from the viewer: https://imgur.com/a/h2XUBN6

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