Doubts about the 250 boxes and vanishing points

11:27 PM, Monday January 18th 2021

I finished the first lesson, but I still need to exercise some things, but I'm afraid to start the challenge of the 250 boxes, because I can't visualize the vanishing point correctly and take the lines of the correcting boxes to him, I'm having difficulty visualizing this for start the challenge.

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12:05 AM, Tuesday January 19th 2021

I see what you mean, a challenge that requires skills which you still don't have can be quite unnerving. But the ability to visualize and aim toward a vanishing point is precisely the skill that the challenge is meant to improve, so if your doubt is whether to start it or to wait, I'd say go for it!

Also, I'm sorry if I misunderstand when you say "I can't visualize the vanishing point correctly and take the lines of the correcting boxes to him", but when you're doing corrections you don't extend the lines of the boxes toward the vanishing point, you just extend the lines toward the direction you drew them and check for mistakes.

12:40 AM, Tuesday January 19th 2021

oh sorry, when i say take the lines of the boxes to the vanishing point, it is the imaginary point, as in that exercise approximate perspective understands, i have already drawn several boxes to train randomly during the day, and many of them are distorted and do not come out very correct.

12:40 AM, Friday January 22nd 2021

Thats just how I started. They were crazy, with vp's going where ever they felt like going. You may think it means you are not ready, but actually means its the best time to do it. 250 boxes are a lot of boxes, so don't worry about flying through it without learning anything. Take your time and really think about each line you make before you make it. You will get it for sure we are all rooting for you!!!

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7:49 AM, Tuesday January 19th 2021

Hi,

So, I haven't gotten critique back yet on my 250 challenge so take this with a grain of salt- maybe try drawing a few boxes with the vanishing points really close to get started. Draw the 'Y' and then pick a spot extended past the three ends of your 'Y', where you can see them as your vanishing points. Maybe doing a few like this will help you see what you're aiming for.

As well, I found that after trying some on my own, going back and relooking at the lesson material and these videos helped.

https://youtu.be/mteUPdCHn4s

https://youtu.be/vxXPY6XnCmI

Finally, this is one of those things that I think you figure out with practice. Your first 5-6 won't likely be good, but if you follow the instructions, you'll learn what you're doing wrong and get better.

Good luck!

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11:14 AM, Tuesday January 19th 2021

It's perfectly normal to draw distorted boxes, and that will go on for dozens of boxes before you will start getting an understanding of what's going on. And even then mistakes will happen all the time until the end and beyond.

I suggest you watch some of these videos. You can see Shyllastew taking the challenge and fighting against the same issues.

Even Dorian Iten struggled with this challenge! I say we are all in good company when we draw a bad box.

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2:57 PM, Tuesday January 19th 2021

You have to try in order to start learning. It is difficult, especially those with VPs off the paper.

I came to think in terms of imagining triangles rather than lines and that helped more than just trying to envisage a point in space.

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3:32 AM, Wednesday January 20th 2021

Go for it bruv, the point of the 250 Box Challenge is to 'Challenge' you, sure it will be intimidating at first but once you get the hang of it, you'll be making boxes in no time. Also the point of the challenge is to reinforce the concepts taught in L1, so along the way you'll slowly grasp it bit-by-bit, even if you start the challenge not really understanding some concepts like what you mentioned here, if you still need help, I suggest rewatching the videos over and over again. Good luck!

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2:36 PM, Wednesday January 20th 2021

I'm struggling with the same problem - it is very difficult for me to visualize the VPs and to draw the extensions of the lines in the correct direction (away from the viewer).

For me the mentioned YT videos were useful, as well as simply turning the page around a lot. I realized that from certain angles it's easier for me to visualize the VP and to draw the line extensions.

Moreover, for the first 10 boxes or so, I tried to check myself with a, well, actual box - I have some small almost cubical carton box lying around. I turned it in my hand so I could help myself visualize the vps in space, and then try to put it on paper. I did it only for the first few boxes, so I hope it's not considered cheating ;)

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6:03 PM, Thursday January 21st 2021

You can always do a few pages and then throw them up on the Discord or forum for feedback. Problem is, if you don't start htem then you'll never be able to visualize the vanishing point correctly. If it makes you feel better, I was over 100 boxes in before I started to "get it", but you have to actually do it to get to that point .Hope that helps.

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