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11:03 PM, Wednesday May 27th 2020

Alrighty, so I'm actually glad you included the arrows here, because they allow us to achieve something of a useful comparison. If you look at the arrows, they're drawn pretty confidently, and they capture a great sense of flow. Your lines cover a pretty significant distance, and still you're able to maintain a consistent width throughout the arrows - there's no awkward pinching or wobbling, both edges mirror each other nicely on all of these.

Moving over to your branches, things change quite a bit - and I don't think it has anything to do with technical skill. Your lines here go off their intended trajectory very quickly. While it is normal to see some visible 'tails' where those lines veer off their paths, here I think the reason this happens is pretty straight forward:

When drawing your arrows, you're doing so from your shoulder. When drawing your branches, you're drawing from your wrist.

One thing that can help quite a bit is drawing the branches to be larger, forcing you to contend with longer lines between your ellipses, and avoiding the sort of cramped situation you're encountering here.

Moving onto your mushroom constructions, I think what you're aiming to accomplish here is in many ways moving in the right direction, but one specific aspect of the drawings definitely has you struggling - the ellipses. They're frequently quite loose, especially as they get larger. This again is a common side-effect of drawing more from your wrist or elbow. As the ellipses come out unwound, it's much more difficult to achieve an illusion of solidity in the resulting forms.

The relatively small scale of your drawings here also contributes to this - drawing smaller causes us to cramp up, and makes it harder to engage our spatial reasoning skills while also impeding the use of our full arm.

You did mention before that you were stuck in bed, and I definitely understand that this can make drawing from your shoulder harder. It's still absolutely possible, but this kind of hindrance can make learning that skill and becoming comfortable with it that much more challenging.

One last point about the mushrooms - the details themselves are usually rushed, and don't really follow the principles covered back in lesson 2 (relying on cast shadow shapes rather than outlines, like where you outlined the little growths on the cap of the fly agaric mushroom). I think for now it is a good idea to leave all kinds of detail and texture aside for now - having you tackle many, many different things all at once is only going to compound things. Better that we get you comfortable with the primary focus of this course, rather than fussing with anything beyond.

Lastly, your leafy plants are fairly well done. I can see you putting a lot more effort into the construction of your flower pots, and I can even see some improvement in the use of your branches, which is definitely good to see.

I did ask for one page of flower drawings, which doesn't seem to be in this album. Since you included some reference images of flowers, I suspect you did complete the page, so it must have gotten lost in the shuffle.

So, as described above, there are a few key issues that I'm seeing in your work that we should try to address:

  • You are absolutely capable of drawing longer, flowing lines from your shoulder as you demonstrated with your arrows. You need to be using your arm the same way even when drawing shorter lines. Counter-intuitively, the best way to do this is actually just to further increase your general comfort with drawing from your shoulder, which we can do by having you draw things bigger. Don't draw so cramped on the page, take full advantage of all the space that is available to you

  • You're definitely struggling with your ellipses. This can at least in part be due to drawing from your elbow or wrist, but in general ellipses can be challenging. We'll need to look more closely at this.

  • Leave texture/detail aside. Focus entirely on drawing the major forms of your constructions, and on making each form feel solid and complete.

I'll assign a few extra pages below, but I think after this last round of revisions I'm going to clear you to move onto the insects regardless of how they come out. Moving onto the insects will help give you a fresh angle from which to attack these problems.

Next Steps:

So, for your last round of revisions, I'd like to see the following:

  • 1 page of the tables of ellipses exercise from lesson 1

  • 1 page of the funnels exercise from lesson 1

  • 1 page of the branches exercise

  • 2 pages of mushrooms. Just focus on the major forms, and draw big. Don't cramp your drawings, take full advantage of the space that is available to you.

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
7:33 AM, Thursday May 28th 2020
edited at 11:02 AM, May 28th 2020

I didn't realize I forgot to post the flowers. Just for completeness here they are https://imgur.com/7oqVP6J And you say your going to assign more pages but I don't see anything listed.

I was just thinking one of the reasons that I'm not doing well with all of this is because I'm not thinking about past lessons in the new lessons. My thinking is "that lesson is done let's learn something new now in the next one". And I tend to just focus on the new instructions without trying to incorporate the previous ones.

edited at 11:02 AM, May 28th 2020
4:40 PM, Thursday May 28th 2020

Those flowers are definitely moving in the right direction, and I'm really happy with how a lot of those petals have been drawn with confident, smoothly flowing lines. One thing to keep in mind though is that the ellipse you draw early on is meant to define the specific bounds of your construction - for many of these, it establishes how far out your petals are going to go.

Constructional drawing is all about making decisions step by step, one by one, in this manner. We make one decision (how far out will the petals go?) and then we adhere to it as we move forwards, rather than ignoring it or deciding to change that decision. Once it has been made, it cannot be changed, otherwise we'll end up with contradictions in our drawing.

Another way you can think about it is in terms of the scaffolding that holds up a building. While it is being constructed, we put up struts and supports, and what we build on top of them cannot overextend beyond where it is actually supported. Every phase of construction is similar - we lay out a structure, and then in the next phase we adhere to what the existing structure can hold up. Then that becomes the structure to support the next phase, and so on. So this flower in particular ended up with more complex edges that didn't quite follow the structure that preceded it that closely, resulting in a much weaker relationship from phase to phase.

As for the additional pages I assigned, they should be listed in orange just underneath my last critique, as shown here. If they aren't showing up, could you tell me what browser/device you're using to view the website? It could be a bug.

Lastly, I definitely agree that the approach you described - moving forward without thinking about what was covered in the previous lesson - would definitely hold you back. The things we learn in previous lessons aren't at all meant to be left aside as we move forwards. Every lesson builds on what we learned in the previous one, and having a lesson marked as complete doesn't mean you don't have to worry about it anymore. Instead, it means that you show that you understand what you should be aiming for, so you should be able to practice and improve upon it on your own. That's why those exercises become part of our warmups - there's loads of additional mileage we need to cover to really get those skills down firmly.

12:32 AM, Friday May 29th 2020

I'm using chrome. I see the additional pages now but they weren't there this morning for some reason. Anyway I see it now so I guess it's ok now.

5:51 PM, Tuesday June 2nd 2020

Before I hand in the extra pages I forgot to ask if you wanted 1 page of both ellipse exercises or just a specific one?

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