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3:39 AM, Monday February 28th 2022

Hello! Haitrinhbach. I am Doctormein and i'll be critiquing your homework for today.

Arrows.

At the core of this exercise. The arrows are being drawn decently, You're not afraid of letting them overlaps each others which is great, But i think you'll be able to convey the illusion much more effectively if you're making them Compress even more. And personally I think that in some of these arrows the line quality felt a bit hesitant sometimes so fixing on that might be great in my opinion.

Technicals Exercises

Leaves.

I think your leaves so far looks great. You start dead simple with construction first before moving forward on any edges details or texture. (Including making them fold naturally too.)

But there's always something to critique on.

For the Additional textures of the leaves. (Veins , tiny tubes etc.)

If you remembered from lesson 2 texture and details in the "Texture analysis" exercise, The same principles applied here. (Drawing cast shadows not lines , making transition from dense to sparse etc.

And while the same principles of "Dissection" Also applied too. I think you understand how texture bend with this form nicely.

Nonetheless i'll leave you with this link here and i think this will also benefit you nicely too (Complex leaves structure.)

Branches.

In this exercise the first thing that jumps out to me is that You seem to be drawing your line from one ellipses to another. What you should be doing is instead Draw your lines PAST the second ellipses and stop halfway to the third. as requested right here

As for the forking branches, While i think it isn't much of a deal. I still think you should draw the ellipses on the edges of the ball instead of inside it. here

Plants Constructions.

For plant construction, I think the major concern here is the Line quality. Aside from the demos themselves the line quality felt a bit Scratchy and hesitant.

And before moving on to construction You should fill 1 page with only 1 plant, Because by drawing things bigger it'll allow your brain to work through the spatial problem that is being presented.

Now for the construction.

Cactus , Lotus (Not demos)

For the cactus always remember to not leave the construction open ended. If you take a look at your roots (I think?) of the cactus. You drew them pretty flat instead of being a 3d form.

And i think for the cactus you'll also benefit from Poles as seen here. right now you're drawing them as mentioned above like a flat 2d shapes. (You can ask me for a demo if you're uncertain about it. But mine won't be as good as uncomfy so i recommend checking the website out.) https://imgur.com/a/d01Pyj5

For the lotus the primary concern here is You're not drawing through your form Try your best to see through the image and attempt to draw through your form if possible. Same goes with underwater plants

Second page (Not demos.)

You're not following Branches , Leaves construction and you're not starting with simple geometric form. with previously mentioned line work issue

Underwater , Mushroom

For underwater as previously mentioned Draw through your form. and start simple (Start with cylinder , boxes , cones , pyramid , Balls.) and after that focusing on organic form (Sausages.) And finally flat form. Right now you're not drawing them constructionally (Drawing lines instead of form) Which resulted in flat looking plant.

As for mushroom just like above. Draw through your form. and always cap the things off. don't leave stuff open ended. (And you can always reference to the uncomfy demo for mushroom)

And lastly for the pots don't draw them without thickness. Pots are not paper thin. Instead add another ellipses along the pot to make it have some thickness with confidently draw and hesitation-free execution (I make this mistake at first too But you should keep this in mind nonetheless)

I think the major issue has been pointed out so i'll be moving to conclusion

Next Steps:

(Conclusion)

Your primary concern here is your line quality

Remember that we're not Sketching here. Every line must be put down with clear intention even if its wrongly placed or inaccurate.

I would like an additional

  • 3 pages of plant construction

  • 1 page of branches

(Plant construction) Focusing on

  • Line quality (Confident , Hesitation-free execution with clear forethought)

  • Filling only 1 plant per page and draw as big as possible, So that you can work through the spatial problem

  • Always start simple. With basic construction (Such as branches , or balls.) Before moving forward with flat flowing shapes (Leaves)

  • Drawing through your form, So you can understand the spatial problem presented.

  • Observe your subject and identifying its basic component. Don't try to rush it

(Branches) Focusing on

  • Drawing your lines PAST the second ellipses and stop halfway to the third.
When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
3:41 AM, Monday February 28th 2022
edited at 3:45 AM, Feb 28th 2022

If i haven't made any point clear or you have additional question Feel free to always ask me down below.

I'll answer if possible.

And remember we're not here to make pretty picture. This is all an exercise in construction

(If you haven't get your Lesson 2 critiqued yet. You should get that critiqued first before moving on toward my additional works. Since the person who critique your lesson 2 might ask for revision)

edited at 3:45 AM, Feb 28th 2022
6:45 PM, Friday March 4th 2022
edited at 6:54 PM, Mar 4th 2022

_i really dont get it when you said "For the cactus always remember to not leave the construction open ended" so can you give me some kind of example ?

_well this question is totally off topic : its been a few months since i posted my drawing lesson 2 and right now im at lesson 5 already but i havent got any critique for lesson 2 and 4 so should i keep waiting or send it to discord ?

_anyway thank you so much for critiquing my drawing i havent got any for a few months now ;-;

here are my extra drawings:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-CHHSb1yHheShGMb5nlJExOv2uA4dn2k?usp=sharing

edited at 6:54 PM, Mar 4th 2022
4:48 AM, Sunday March 6th 2022

Thank you for bearing with my revision there Haitrinhbach!

Regarding the critique, I highly recommend that you post Lesson 2 and 4 on the official Drawabox discord. https://discord.gg/FvvSHrFb Especially in #critique-exchange. Read the pinned message and you'll prob figure out how to put your work in the critique queue spreadsheets.

I recommend putting a halt to lesson 5 for a bit since. Like me, people might ask for revision with your work and i recommend you do the revision first before moving forward since it'll fill out any holes in your understanding of the lesson. (Drawabox lesson is built one on top of the other after all.)

Now regarding the cactus

Here are my little demo i made for you here and also this one by uncomfortable. Poles This will be very useful when drawing fruits (such as apples , Peaches etc.) but this can also be applied to your cactus too.

And finally. When moving forward with the lesson. Don't forget to checkout informal demos and finished official homework of the lesson too. You'll find a lot of useful information here and there to further improve your understanding of the lesson.

Now lets finally moving on toward reviewing your submission.

(For future submission, It would be great if you could provide your reference in the submission themselves. Since this will allowed the person that is critiquing your work to further understand what your weakness might be)

General advice.

In general try to be confident with your stroke. It's fine if you mess them up and they end up in the wrong place. just try your best to be as confident as you can with them. Your line work has improved since the last time i critiqued, But there's also a room of improvement. So i highly recommend practicing Tables of ellipses , Ghosted planes.

And always remember. When drawing ellipses. be confident just like lines. Always draw through them 2 - 3 times and even if the second stroke doesn't actually overlap with the first. That's fine

Plant 1

Your mushroom largely felt pretty solid. You're using the branches method nicely, However when you're connecting the mushroom, try to make sure that the branches is connected to something. Like this You can clearly see that the branches stick to the furthest ellipse, thus making the construction more believable. right now Your branches seem a bit like it's floating in the air.

Additionally. when adding details remember to think as shapes instead of lines. You can see in this demo (https://drawabox.com/lesson/3/4) that although Uncomfy is starting with lines first. He never ended with just lines. he always added shapes on top of them.

Plant 2

First thing that jumps out of me is that your pot felt a bit too thin. Always remember that pot have thickness (I made this mistake on my submission too. You can check them out if you're curious.) and you should always add another ellipses to convey it thickness.

For the branches it mostly look pretty solid and believable, Same goes with the leaves.

Plant 3

For this final plant. You're actually doing pretty well! you're applying the branches and leaves technique nicely. and you're actually drew the stem pretty well too. (Assuming it's lotus). For details you can always refer back to plant 1 for instruction.

Branches.

Those so far looks good. You're making a step toward the right direction. Although there's visible stroke present. This is very common and will get better with practice.

Next Steps:

This new round of revision clearly show a sign of improvement toward what i've critiqued earlier.

You're starting dead simple with geometrical form , Organic form and following my advice on drawing only one plant on the page and as big as possible for you to work toward spatial problem.

As i said your major concern here is your line work. Although i didn't see any chicken scratching present. I think you can be a lot more confident with your lines, Since they'll help you out in conveying form to be more solid and believable

I think you're actually making a step toward the right direction. And although there's a lot to be improve on.

and I'll be marking this lesson as completed

Before moving on to lesson 4. Make sure to check out the discord link i sent earlier and also get your lesson 2 critiqued before moving toward lesson 4 too.

Best of luck.

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