Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes

9:23 PM, Friday January 14th 2022

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Here are all the exercises for Lesson 1

As a strange turn of events, I found that the hardest exercises were not the "hardest" exercises, but rather the easier ones. I have been been doing a lot of hatch work with pencil lately, so I don't bother with straight lines- the first exercise will attest to this fact. Problem area number one.

Secondly I found the "Rough Perspective" particularly difficult. I suspect for the same reasons why I had problems with the super imposed lines. Trying to gauge my points between the box point and the vanishing point, especially those box points that were the furthest away, were a trial, as my homework will reveal.

The Organic and Rotated perspectives not too bad in and of themselves. Part of this might be because I currently working with 3d graphics via blender. While this does not make them perfect specimens, I am still pretty satisfied with their results. You will see in the rotated perspective that one side is out of place- that is the section where I was still trying to grasp the concept of that exercise.

Nice set of exercises, and I am looking forward to the 250 challenge (which they said you only needed to do if you found the last two exercises hard- I'll do it anyway because I found the first exercises and rough perspective much more difficult difficult.). I look forward to the future challenges and exercises- some look pretty intimidating.

Until then,

Zangk

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9:52 AM, Monday January 17th 2022

Hello, and welcome to drawabox. I’ll be honest, I wasn’t here back then, but I expect the thing you read about only needing to do the box challenge if you had trouble with boxes is a vestige from an earlier time (as you know, lessons get written and re-written constantly) – the box challenge is very much a requirement, now. Let me look through this first, however, and then we’ll talk about that!

Your superimposed lines look quite solid. They’re smooth, properly lined up at the start, and of a consistent trajectory. The ghosted lines/planes look quite confident, also, though not so much at the start. 2 things could be going on here, and I subscribe to the second a little more. The first is that you’re spending so long lining up your pen to the correct starting point that you’re losing the previously built-up rhythm. The second is that you’re drawing faster than you need to, mistakenly equating speed with confidence. From the inconsistency in the stopping point of each line, I’d say that that’s likely, so consider experimenting a little to find your ideal speed.

The table of ellipses exercise looks good. Your ellipses are smooth, rounded, and properly drawn through. You do have a habit of flicking your pen off the page at the end of your rotations, however. See if you can lift it off instead, like you did with your lines. The ellipses in planes are well done. They do a good job of maintaining their previous smoothness/roundness, despite these more complicated frames. The funnels, too, are nicely done, though not quite as round as we might expect, so they too could benefit from a longer time spent ghosting.

The plotted perspective exercise looks clean.

The rough perspective exercise is certainly a little lacking, but I’d say that the main issue with it is a lack of patience. If you’d taken a look at your points before committing to them you should’ve been able to tell that the resulting lines wouldn’t have been parallel/perpendicular to the horizon, as we (and, more importantly, 1-point perspective) want them to be, and yet here they are. Still, the convergences look fine, and save for the overshooting, and automatic reinforcing issues (both of which we’ll expect to be fixed in the box challenge, so don’t assume that they’ll simply right themselves, and make an effort to reel them back), the linework looks good, also.

The rotated boxes exercise looks fairly good. Your boxes are a little small, but they’re snug, and properly rotating as a result. Their far planes have a harder time at this, as do their depth lines of converging (sometimes they’ll diverge), but that’s perfectly fine, and something that we’ll get in to in the box challenge.

From the amount of overshooting, I’ll hazard a guess that you’ve not plotted start/end points for all of the lines in the organic perceptive exercise – please do. Other than that, and the occasionally dramatic foreshortening, the exercise looks good, and flows well. Be especially careful of automatic reinforcing, here, by the way. As it makes the box it is applied to pop to the front, you need to be careful not to apply it to any boxes in the back (or any boxes at all, really), as it’ll then contradict what their size is saying.

Next Steps:

I’ll be marking this lesson as complete, so you may head on over to the box challenge. Best of luck.

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9:42 PM, Monday January 17th 2022

Thank you for the critique:

One of Two: There is a little irony in your "Two of possible problems, but probably the second" critique. Remembering back, I think that I was doing both. Sometimes I would ghost more quickly out of impatience- but sometimes in a fit of overcorrection, I would spend too much time trying to line it up.

Rough Perspective: This may be do to a lack of understanding on how to approach the lesson. Here is what I did:

  1. I would make my dot and then build up the box (this was not the hard part)

  2. I would ghost from each point to the vanishing point (about 8 times each), and then stick a dot when in the middle of my 9th run. At that point I felt committed, regardless of where that dot would end up, so I would ghost to it, whether it was wrong or not.

Which begs the question: Can I correct my dot if I do not think that it is lining up to my vanishing point? This may have been the problem more then the lack of patience if I can correct my dot.

Rotated Perspective: Agreed. Once I was well into it I found my boxes were too small. I did not have a sense of proportion yet until it was too late. I did not want to restart, as that is not the point.

Organic Perspective: I think I know what went on here. I started picking up a bad habit, I think one I began in the Rough Perspective, as a means to try to correct my errors. I would draw the line first rather than plot it out with a dot. Then I would connect the parallel where ever it would meet up with the original, making an "overshooting" effect. Which in reality, is rather an undershooting of the second line, which is then connected to the first.

You have mentioned something a few times, "automatic reinforcement". I do not recall hearing or reading this term within the lessons- could you elaborate?

7:05 AM, Wednesday January 19th 2022

You absolutely can adjust your point, if you find it to be unsatisfactory - in fact, your encouraged to.

That's... definitely not the way you're meant to be going the organic perspective exercise. Each line is drawn once, and only once (and, obviously, it's drawn using the ghosting method). This has us transition nicely into the automatic reinforcing question. Essentially, what that means is that you'll draw a line, and then immediately go over it a second time, usually as a means of 'correcting' it, as a knee-jerk reaction. That's not something we like to see. One, because you're meant to be thinking about your line before you draw it, thus putting yourself in the best position of executing it well. Two, because it helps to become comfortable with one's own mistakes. You'll be seeing a lot of them, anyway. Hence: draw each line once!

2:55 AM, Sunday February 13th 2022

Thanks for the explanation. It is what I figured it meant, but I wanted to be sure I was not mistaken.

"That's... definitely not the way you're meant to be going the organic perspective exercise. "

Good thing we were able to catch that then.

Now I am doing the first 250 crucible, some of the mistakes have crept in at times, but some other aspects (good ones) have started becoming reinforced. The biggest test has not truly been my dots, lines, accuracy, straightness, ect at this point, even if they need much work: perseverance and patience are my true bane here...but I am almost done, regardless of the results. I hope to have it in before the end of this month.

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