Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes
3:14 PM, Wednesday January 19th 2022
Hello everyone,
I finished lesson 1 and I'd appreciate any critique or feedback. Thanks in advance!
Hello Melchior, here's my critique
Lines: you did a pretty good job, your lines are not wobbly , there's is a bit of fraying at the end of some of your super imposed lines, but with practice you should see less and less of that. Just one thing though, some of your longer lines seem to me to be a bit less "compact" in comparison to the short-medium lines you drew, next time you practice lines, try to focus on them .
Ellipses: in general you did well here too, although I think you did much better in the ellipses in planes than in the table of ellipses, where I noticed that some of your ellipses are wobbling quite a bit. However you did well in drawing them all with just 2 or 3 strokes and making each ellipses touch with one another!
except for one, funnels are also well done!
as for the boxes: well done in rough perspective, most of the extension lines point to the vanishing point, good job!
Nice work with the rotating boxes exercise, although you should try to accentuate the rotation of the boxes a bit more.
Nice work!
Next Steps:
next, 250 boxes challenge!
Thank you very much for the critique! I will move on now to doing 250 boxes.
Hello Melchior
So thought I would provide feedback, trying my best as per the guide :)
Super Imposed Lines
Looking at the lines P1 and 2
You have really neat starts, all starting around the point
On page 1 there are a couple of the longer lines where it looks like the middle is more spread out than the ends, but there seems to be very litte wobbling, so looks like you followed through and took confident strokes without trying to correct yourself.
There is some arching
Ghosted lines
They look good, there is one where you correctred a line (only mentioning it because the guides said not to, or to quote them "5.Repeating lines. No matter how off a line is, a student should never repeat it, they should kept the line as it if were correct and move on."). The lines look good, close to dot two with some over shooting, and as they told us to prioritising getting our line to dot two, then care about length, recon you are well on your way.
Once again, very little arch and no wobbling.
Ghosted planes
Once again nice straight lines (can only compare with my own ones). There seems to be some overshoot on the lines at times, but would say that is a question of training. Minimal woble, miminal arching.
There is a few planes that aren't quite parallel, skewing the plane a bit. Think that is just training. May also be that you did not plot your lines before drawing them (or the dot was so small and you where so exact that I cant see the dots).
Noticed that myselh, whenever I tried to make boxes without doing the plot dots my perpective goes way of. And its one of the points they make in the guidance for providing feedback.
Table of Ellipses
They Ellipses looks good and exact, most looks like they are drawn in two full circles, there are a few that may be one and a half, but your pen work is far better than mine, and you keep the lines far tighter.
Looking at the guide, it seem confident, there are a few on the end of page 1 that looks like you may have corrected.
Think the next thing is to continue to improve the snuggness of the lines, there is some overlay over the lines, not excessive, but think that is the area where you would benefit most from improving.
Ellipses in Planes
They look over all good, the circles are snug to the line, there are occasions where you go outside the line, but think that is just a question of training. And they do look like they are drawn with confidence (which they state is the primary objective), looks like most of them was made in two circles, once again, as they told us to. And you seem to have really gotten the rings nicely round in the plane (I.E. most of them looks like they are in the same perspective as the plane and still round, had serious issues with that my self)
Funnels
They look nice and snugg, it also says that
"4.On funnels, the minor axis (the line in the middle) should cut ellipses in 2 symetrical halves."
Think they are generally good, there are a few of the larger ones where there is a bit of an egg shapes. but once again. Also, the lines are closer together than the previous Ellipses, so seems like you're improving.
Boxes
The first one where you used a rules (we where suppose to, so no critique), they look good, and your added nice weight to your lines as well. Very nice and clean.
The rough perspective ones, you are using the line correction method. Some of the lines are a bit wobbly, but that is just exsersize, and even though they are rough, you hace managed to kee them quite lose to the VP. I can also see that they are plotted properly. Potentially a bit deeped than expected, but that's about it.
On rotating boxes, there may be a bit limited rotation between the second inner and the outer set of boxes.
https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/d73eea49.jpg
(I did not create that drawing, grabbed it from the instructions how to critiques)
On the organic bosses, the perspective is a bit of at places, but that is apperantly common (also, it seems like we will get a lot of excersize drawing boxes.
Hope this helped,
Next Steps:
Generally, think its good, my main advice would be to continue training, making certain that you continues to draw your lines with confidence. Always plot your lines before ghosting them. And draw for fun :)
Thank you for your critique! It's nice that you're comparing with your own experience, it's helpfull to get advices from a fellow struggler :)
I admit that I did correct myself a few times, but I learned that it's a no-no only after finishing the lesson. I think I somehow missed this info during reading text/watching videos. I get it now that I should commit to whatever line I made. Although sometimes my corrections aren't corrections: sometimes while ghosting I keep my pen too close to the paper and unintentionally make a narrow mark. That's another problem that I should fight.
I agree that sometimes I forget to plot my lines beforehands, I will try to keep that in mind.
Thanks again, it's really helpful!
Happy to help, and it helped me as well:)
Regarding plotting, I stopped doing it on boxes, and my boxes got so ridiculously bad, but I could not find anywhere where they said that you where suppose to continue plotting, so thought I was cheating when I started adding dots. But checked and it did not look like the teacher was doing it, so I just thought I must be useless at perspective.
When it comes to technical drawing, there's no one better than Scott Robertson. I regularly use this book as a reference when eyeballing my perspective just won't cut it anymore. Need to figure out exactly how to rotate an object in 3D space? How to project a shape in perspective? Look no further.
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