250 Box Challenge

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I wish I could've done better, Like add lineweight, But after the challenge, my line confidence has gotten significantly better. But, nonetheless, It was the best I could do, and now I believe and hope I can do better.

Things I had a hard time on-

I had a hard time with plotting (I used the ghosting method) the lines back to the same vanishing point, and I was wondering if this will be better over time in future exercises?

I also had a hard time with the hatching lines, I used y shoulder as much as I can, BUt it seems like I keep overshooting the line, even after using the ghosting method. I was wondering if I can use my wrist for smaller lines? Or I should just practice drawing short lines with the shoulder?

That's all! thank you:)

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5:41 PM, Wednesday March 23rd 2022

Hi there,

congratulations on finishing the 250-Box-Challenge and thanks for submitting, I'll be reviewing your homework. I hope my feedback helps you.

Your work reveals that you had put a lot of focus, energy and time in completing the challenge. Your work came out beautiful, well done!

I structured this critique as follows:

I named the specific sections of boxes after of their order, so it's easier to refer to them. Newbies - ( 1-100 boxes) 2. Intermediates - (101-200 boxes) and 3. Pros - ( 201- 250 boxes)

The actual analysis is structured in 3 parts: the praises (what you did well) and where you went off and should keep an eye on in the future. In the end I'll give some general pointers/reminders, so you don't forget them

THE PRAISES ( The job you did well in the challenge)

You always drew through your forms and understand how they sit in 3D. Nicely done

You did a great job checking for your mistakes by checking the boxes convergences by extending the lines always from the viewer. You identified where it went wrong and worked on it.

You are able to construct the boxes of various types with different orientation, proportion and foreshadowing with good amounts of convergences. So hats off for that!

I can say that you are building a sense of confidence and patience in drawing your boxes by plotting down the starting and end points of the lines before executing, so thats good job!

Don't worry about accuracy, I will advise you to leave it there for some time and prioritize confidence first. After we build some confidence, we can work on some accuracy as well. We prioritize confidence and draw lines from our shoulder without thinking about any accuracy there. Our lines will look solid and more appealing, even though they are in inaccurate. Also don't repeat inaccurate lines and try to correct them. It just wastes time where you don't learn anything. Plotting to the vanishing point get's easier over time (just take a look at you first and last boxes and you will see an improvement already).

You hatched the face of the box facing towards the viewer. You took you time doing so and ghosted them thoroughly. i personally draw long lines from the shoulder and shorter ones from the wrist or elbow (but only when they are short enough so they don't curve). Same goes for really small ellipses. I'm not sure if that's "comfy-approved" but it works well for me.

It would have been nice if you added line weight around the silouehette, but it's not bad not to do it.

WHERE IT WENT SLIGHTLY OFF? ( Where you should keep an eye on)

In this part I will just point out where it went slightly off. In the coming part I will explain how to avoid them and how you can improve them. I made this part because it will remind us where we are going wrong and it will thereby make us conscious about our mistakes while drawing those boxes.

Of course you had improved throughout the challenge but there are times where some of the set of lines converges at a faster rates than the others resulting in converging in pairs. This point you can definitely work on, in your warm ups.

According to the rule of perspective, all the parallel lines in the 3D world (real world) will appear to converge to a specific VP (vanishing point) on a 2d page. SSo what we can say is that our parallel lines should always converge as a set and not in pairs. They will never diverge from the VP as this will break the rule of perspective. So next time, instead of drawing parallel lines in the boxes, try to consciously think that the parallel lines in the 3d world of box will always converge to a specific vp. These vps can either be staying inside the page (creating more dramatic/foreshadowed boxes) or outside of it (creating shallow boxes) https://imgur.com/mWLlnYl

It's completely and totally normal to have the back corner line slightly off compared to the rest. You should try and work on those as well. They have significantly improved at end of your work, so nice job!

In this challenge, we are estimating where our lines going to converge to a point. As we are humans, it is almost impossible to perfectly estimate where our lines will going to converge thereby resulting in an error. This error will continue to accumulate as we construct the box freely rotated in space. Finally this accumulated error will be thrown to the back corner. So its pretty normal to have the inner back corner come out pretty off.

I want to take a look at this info here; https://i.imgur.com/8PqQLE0.png

In this image we can know that how each line will behave relating to the position from its neighbouring edges and the VP. If the distance between the internal edges and external edges gets reduce more and more they will eventually become parallel to one and another. Alternatively if the distance between the internal corner and the external grow more and more the internal line will also converge. You can also try and start from the back corner if the box is narrower. https://imgur.com/a/DHlA3Jh

These diagram can be pretty hard to understand at first, so if you don't understand it, don't get frustrated, keep reading it from time to time while practicing regularly and it will click eventually.

SOME GENERAL STUFF I WISH SOMEONE HAD REMINDED ME BACK THEN

I would highly advise you to include boxes in your warmups and construct 1-2 boxes daily. After some time you will see how your boxes get better and better.

Remember the 50% rule. This challenge takes a lot of time and effort and you'll burn out/lose motivation if you don't do something for yourself as well.

You didn't do this, but I still want to mention this: don't erase wrong lines/draw correct ones over top. If your line is incorrect, mark the correct ending point and draw the rest of your lines correct (you don't learn anything correcting lines, so it just wastes time)

Take your time with the exercises. You'll learn a lot more if you take your time. DaB in general is a marathon and not a sprint. It really helped me to set my goal to "draw x minutes each day" instead of "draw x boxes a day". The amount of boxes you manage during that time will increase the further you get. It also helped me to do DaB at a specific time slot each day.

We all know this challenge was very intimidating. Constructing 250 boxes arbitrarily rotated in 3D is hard and yet you did a great job by keeping persistent till the end with lots of effort, focus, energy and time, well done! Your submission reveals that you did take time to read through the lesson materials, followed the instructions and executed to your best of your ability.

Feel free to move on to lesson 2 and good luck in your artistic jourey.

Next Steps:

feel free to start lesson 2

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10:21 PM, Wednesday March 23rd 2022

Thank you so much for the critique! I'll definitely be keeping these pointers and reminders in mind.

I'll be sure to add boxes to my warm up sessions, and I'll try to be more consistent with the amount of time i'll be doing DAB exercises.

Thank you again! :D

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