250 Box Challenge

12:52 PM, Saturday April 17th 2021

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Here is my work for the 50 boxes challenge

After checking it appears that there are 2 text boxes 141 and that text box 36 was missing. I didn't want to change all the numbers up the end so I left it like this. This challenge really take a lot of ftime to do and to upload!

Anyways, thanks in advance for your criticism.

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6:40 PM, Saturday April 17th 2021

Congratulations for completing the 250 Box Challenge!

I can see you made some good improvement with the quality of your mark making. Your lines steadily become straighter and more confident looking as you progressed through the challenge. You also start to do a better job of getting your sets of parallel lines to converge more consistently towards their shared vanishing points!

While your mark making has improved, I do see that you still hesitate in some areas. This is likely due to prioritizing your accuracy over creating a smooth, confident looking line.

Just remember that the confidence of the stroke is far and away your top priority. Once your pen touches the page, any opportunity to avoid mistakes has passed, so all you can really do is push through. Hesitation serves no purpose. Mistakes happen, but a smooth, confident mark is still useful even if it's a little off. If the line is wrong, we leave it and move onto the next step. Accuracy is something that you will improve on as you continue working through Drawabox and practice ghosting.

Now, while it is important that you use the ghosting method of each mark you make while doing Drawabox one thing you can try to help with ending your marks closer to where you want them is lifting the pen off of the page rather than stopping the motion of your arm. You can do this with extra line weight as well. I would also recommend that you read this comment by Uncomfortable, where he talks more about hesitation. You can also reread this section from lesson 1 about arcing.

I would recommend that you try adding extra line weight to your boxes as a permanent step for your future warm ups. When you go to add weight to a line it is important that you treat the added weight the same way you would a brand new line. That means taking your time to plan and ghost through your mark so that when you go to execute your extra line weight, it is done confidently and so that it blends seamlessly with your original mark. This will allow you to create more subtle and clean looking weight to your lines that reinforces the illusion of solidity in your boxes/forms. Extra line weight should be applied to the silhouette of your boxes. I recommend that you try adding your extra line weight in no more than 1-2 pases so that you can easily identify mistakes in your work. This diagram should help also you better understand how to properly apply your extra line weight.

I did see that you were checking some of your convergences incorrectly.

Checking your convergences is an important step so you should always take your time and make sure you are extending your sets of lines correctly. Noticing and identifying mistakes is a major part of the learning process. Checking your boxes for mistakes is how you know what areas you need to address so that you get the most out of each exercise.

Your line extensions should extend away from the viewer and towards their implied vanishing point. You should do this for all three sets of lines that make up your box. They should extend from the center of the Y (from step one of your construction), out along the Y's arms. Be sure to visit the link for more information and for examples that you can use as reference. You can refer to the diagrams in this link if you are ever confused or uncertain.

Some of your boxes were drawn a bit small. Part of the reason for the 5-6 boxes per page rule is so that students have enough room to draw their boxes larger while having room to check their convergences. By drawing your boxes very small you limit your own ability to execute your lines from the shoulder confidently, which affects the quality of your mark making. Drawing bigger also helps engage your brain's spatial reasoning skills, whereas drawing smaller impedes them. It isn't a problem if your line extensions end up touching other boxes on the page so long as the boxes themselves do not touch or overlap. This should give you enough room to draw your boxes at a larger, more useful size.This, along with varying the foreshortening and orientations of your boxes, will help you get the most out of the exercise.

Keep in mind as you progress through Drawabox and begin to construct more complex forms that it is important to put in the time and focus required to execute each step correctly and to apply the ghosting method to every step of the process, as explained here. If you ever have any questions or are uncertain about what your next step is or how you should be doing something, you should first reread the instructions and if you are still uncertain you can always ask questions here.

Finally while your converges do improve overall I think this diagram will help you as well. When you are looking at your sets of lines you want to be focusing only on the lines that share a vanishing point. This does not include lines that share a corner or a plane, only lines that converge towards the same vanishing point. Now when you think of those lines, including those that have not been drawn, you can think about the angles from which they leave the vanishing point. Usually the middle lines have a small angle between them, and this angle will become negligible by the time they reach the box. This can serve as a useful hint.

Before moving onto lesson 2, I am going to have you draw 10 additional boxes.

For these boxes you will do the following:

  • Use the ghosting method for every mark you make, including hatching and extra line weight

  • Draw all of your boxes in 3pt Perspective

  • 5 boxes per page maximum

  • Check all of your convergences as per the instructions

I will mainly be looking at the quality of your mark making to see if you are employing the ghosting method correctly for all of your mark making, including extra line weight and hatching. I will also be looking at your boxes to make sure your sets of lines are not being kept purposefully parallel.

Make sure you visit every link I have left for you and reread the challenge instructions in their entirety before beginning your revisions.

Next Steps:

10 additional boxes as described in the critique.

This critique marks this lesson as complete.
10:48 AM, Monday April 19th 2021

Thanks for the detailed critique of my work. I'm really happy that I've passed.

Working a little each day and now wanting to do everything in a signle time was the right strategy.

Anyway, here is what your asked for : https://imgur.com/gallery/xzIzPSs

I've made 10 extra boxes while paying attention the border hatching, and of course perspective.

If there are sill any problem, a box which doesn't look 3d enough or perspective line two parallel

feel free to ask again.

Have a nice day!

8:02 PM, Monday April 19th 2021

So, there are a couple of steps that you appear to have missed. The first being your line extensions.

You did not extend the lines that make up the back corner of your boxes. If you look at this section of the instructions you can see that you are meant to extend all of your lines towards their shared vanishing points.

That means for each box you should have 3 sets of lines extending towards their shared vanishing points.

Each of those sets of lines should contain 4 individual lines extending towards their shared vanishing points. You should not skip any of these lines as this step is meant to help you identify mistakes in your work.

The second thing I noticed is that you were not applying your extra line weight correctly. If you look at this section you can see that for this exercise, you are only meant to apply your extra line weight to the silhouette of your box. You should also be employing the ghosting method with every mark you make. This includes your extra line weight and hatching.

This time I would like for you to draw 5 additional boxes. Just like before, you should reread the instructions and pay particular attention to the sections I linked in this critique.

For these boxes you will do the following:

  • Use the ghosting method for every mark you make, including hatching and extra line weight

  • Draw all of your boxes in 3pt Perspective

  • 5 boxes per page maximum

  • Check all of your convergences as per the instructions

For this set of boxes I want you to draw only 1 box per day. The goal is to allow you to invest as much time and energy needed to perform each step to the best of your current ability. You can also watch this video where I demonstrate how I draw boxes.

Next Steps:

5 additional boxes as described above

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
11:58 AM, Tuesday April 20th 2021

Thanks again for all those remarks.

Could you please some pieces of advice about extra line weight/ lineart?

I've got a 0.3 min line and a 0.8 min a pentel pocket brush. If I understood correctly the base as described in lesson in need to draw a first line (rather fine with my 0.3 min) and then I can use my 0.8 min or should I directly try my pocket brush?

Pencil is said to be the artist "master tool"/ symbol of painting in part because of this isn't it?

Do you think that the ghosting line combine with a superimposed line (a little bigger) could a good start to improve line weighting? How many times should I superimposed? 2? 3?

After 5 times, the line would make too thick wouldn't it?

Anyway have a nice day.


P.S: I need to go the hospital for a few days, so It may take time before I send the last parts.

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