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4:54 AM, Wednesday June 9th 2021

Hi congratulation for finish your second step (the first is lesson 0, at leat that what I'm thinking) in Drawabox. Here my critique, I pin-point them:

For the first, the line. It's good you maintain the starting point of superimposed line, though it frayed in end line. Next, I found many wobbly line in Ghosted Line. I think it's okay, you already fix this issue on Plane exercise. Remember to lock your wrist pivot and use your shoulder pivot when making line....

Second, the ellipses. Indeed, I struggle hard in this exercise as you. You're good for using space in Table of Ellipses exercise but many of the ellipses that you make is uneven and wobbly. It happens in your Ellipse on Plane exercise too, and it make the ellipse deformed. Also, it repeated again in Funnels exercise. Don't rush and take your time for do ghosting method

Last, the boxes. You're good in plotted perspective and you seem already grab the concept about perspective for rough perspective. For Rotated Boxes, it was good enough. Your Organic Perspective is good too. I just thinking, it's better more vary the size of the boxes. Small (or extra small) for further of the viewer and large (or extra large) for closer view. Well, you'll learn boxes by doing 250 Box Challenge. The things that you could improve in this section are (again) line making. I found wobbly line, especially in rough perspective...

Next Steps:

I recommended you to:

1.Draw some planes in a piece of paper and put ellipse on them (a page of Ellipse on Plane exercise) as warm-up

2.A page of Table of Ellipses exercise

3.Take a page of rough perspective exercise

Just attach your revision in the reply. After that, I could give you complete mark for this lesson

When finished, reply to this critique with your revisions.
2:04 PM, Wednesday June 9th 2021

Hi! Thank you so much for your feedback, I really apreciate it.

I took my lesson time today to do the revision of the excercises you recommended. My ellipses still kind of suck, but I'm already doing it as warm-up every day so hopefully they will get better.

Link to revision

Thanks again!

11:01 AM, Thursday June 10th 2021

I checked your revisions and they seems much better.

So, this lesson could marked as completed. Now, you can start your 250 Box Challenge. Remember to do some 1 lesson's exercise in other time for recall what you already learn. ;)

Also, don't be shy to show your works or throw some questions at DaB's Discord channel. You may get some guide in there while doing any DaB's exercise/challenge

Good luck!

Next Steps:

You can start 250 Box Challenge, now!

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3:23 PM, Tuesday June 22nd 2021

Hi!

Good job on lesson 1! I found it interesting to see how similar some of your exercises looked to mine :) I think Dlarican covered most of the points of critique so I will add what I noticed myself.

I will go off of the order you posted these exercises in:

  • Rotating boxes. Good job, it seems you already have a grasp on depth and perspective, though I would advise you to really pay attention to the turning of the axis. This of course is challenging, but it doesn't have to look great. As long as you try to get a feel for some sort of order in depth and composition, you eventually will pick up in which direction your lines should go as now they still feel a bit random.

  • Good job on rough perspective. Not much to say here, besides that some of the lines (as you yourself noticed during your exercise) diverge a bit from the vanishing point. That is completely understandable of course, but I would really try to "ghost" your way to this point next time. Make sure you don't just jot down lines, try to "feel" the box in space. For me at least this resulted in a much clearer idea of where I wanted the lines to go.

  • Organic perspective looks really good, and I also notice you actually paid attention to not only the surface, but also the underlying depth of the boxes. One point I would like to remark is that it seems you didn't continue the rows of boxes but decided to halt the boxes along the way. If you tried to form some sort of sphere made out of these boxes it might have served as a good exercise to really feel not only the depth of each individual box, but also their relation to the other depths of field. This is also noticeable when looking at the symmetrical elements in this exercise, as the rows and/or columns of boxes do not always align.

  • Both the tables of elipses and funnels exercise looks good, and I can see your elipses got better as you continued. One quick remark is to go over them an extra time to make sure you get that rhythm right, as most of these exercises are predicated on establishing muscle memory, not actual pretty elipses.

Last point of critique is to make sure you balance patience and confidence when making lines. I saw wobbly lines in every exercise so I figured I would mention this at the very bottom. Don't worry, I did see progress, but it seems like you were too careful at times when marking lines. Like Professor pointed out, take as much time as you need when ghosting lines, but ghost these lines with the confidence and speed as you should with the actual line. It seems, and I could be wrong about this, that you took a little too long when drawing the actual lines as I see a lot of wobbling at times. Where you remarked that I overshot my lines, I'll point out that it's best to draw them clean instead of straight or accurate.

Good job in any case :) It looks like you are properly focused on the exercises, but let me remind you that they are pointless if you don't also try to enjoy them a little. I know that these might seem boring, and trust me I know, but if you try to envision some sort of world in even the most rudimentary of elements then even the simplest of boxes can result in the highest feeling of elation as you not only see as a bundle of lines, but as a real thing trapped in a flat piece of paper.

Next Steps:

Next steps are pretty much a summary of what I said before.

  1. Get a "feel" for the depth on paper.

  2. Draw your lines with confidence, and try to simulate this confidence as you ghost your lines.

I personally think no revisions are necessary, and that you can move right on to the 250 box challenge. Make sure to apply the principles above when you do these and this exercise will be a lot more helpful in teaching you perspective.

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